Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/index.php)
-   Costs and attribution of icons (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=342)
-   -   Icon on canvas (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=214042)

Артём 26.08.2013 13:47

Цитата:

Сообщение от tandem ; 2730201 "
icons to this agitprom to do.
In general, the term " cautionary picture " refers to the Chinese popular prints Nianhua

Цитата:

Сообщение от Boris Cohn ; 2730311 "
By the same logic, people - is closer to the monkey .

You guys , it's something. The phrase to remember the movie .
Цитата:

- And if you ask me something ? I lyapni .
- And lyapayut . But lyapayut confident. This is called a point of view .
The pious people of the past were often close to the holy icon lithography on hour of death with the inscription : « Shogo no escape ...» This helped them to think: what today will bring to eternity, as it does not live in vain ? « In all thy works remember the end , and thou shalt not sin » ( Sir. 7 , 39 )

Борис Кон 26.08.2013 13:59

Artem, the pious people of the past , as you say , do not hang a picture next to the icons. For, should not be among the icons of paintings , though written in the Bible stories .
So " Syzran " dictum - " closer to the icons " in any sense is not true.
Just a ...

Артём 26.08.2013 14:17

Цитата:

Сообщение от Boris Cohn ; 2730621 "
pious people of the past, as you say , do not hang a picture next to the icons

 Do you think I came up with it myself . You though google !
Цитата:

When he saw me , a sinner , in my shirt , Father Nektarios smiled and said , "What , now all the way to Russia in Russian dress ? " Then we went to him in his cell a little out there on the iron bed was a huge old lithographic poster, no death was depicted as a skeleton with a scythe and an inscription: "Him no one can escape ! "
Highly valued and it is a cross with a large particle of the Holy Cross , which has always blessed the pilgrims , especially from Russia .
http://www.krutitsy.ru/index.php?mode=articles&id=80
http://pavel-gumerov.ru/book/vechnaya-pamyat/part4/sub2

Борис Кон 26.08.2013 14:24

So what?

All sorts of things hanging from Nektarios over the bed.

Icons hung camping in the certain places, and near to them, the more mixed up, hang pictures, even on a religious theme, is prohibited
.

By the way, you can not hang next to the iconostasis, even photographs and lithographs, holy persons.

Артём 26.08.2013 14:32

Цитата:

Сообщение от Boris Cohn ; 2730671 "
Icons hung

I wrote that this is not my words , and gave a link that lazy to read even with a link ?
Argue with him : http://pavel-gumerov.ru/biography priest Paul Gumerov .

In 1991 . entered the Moscow Theological Seminary in Sergiev Posad, from which he graduated in 1995 . In the same year he entered the Moscow Theological Academy. In 1996 . , Studying at the Academy, took holy orders . In the same year , by decree of His Holiness Patriarch Alexy was appointed full-time priest of the church of St. Nicholas of Myra on Rogozhskoe Cemetery in Moscow . December 14, 2012 was appointed rector of the church under construction Saints Prince Pyotr and Fevronia of Murom in Mariynskoe park.
Gumerov priest Paul writes books and articles , burn CDs , lectures , seminars and discussions on the topic of marriage and family , moral theology. Also, with the blessing of the hierarchy is singing in the choir of the Moscow clergy of St. Peter and Paul decorum . He is married and has two sons.

Борис Кон 26.08.2013 14:40

Yeah I'm not going to argue with Paul Priest Gumerov, especially married and having two children.

I will set out his views on the matter, guided read, and pretty.

Кирилл Сызранский 26.08.2013 14:48

Цитата:

Сообщение от Boris Cohn (Сообщение 2730751)
Yeah, I'm not going to argue with Chaplain Paul Gumerov, especially married and have two children.

And what in the ROC has entered celibacy?
<! - ~ 7 ~ ->

The priest of the secular clergy (do not bring religious profession) without marriage and ordination will not pass, do not ordain celibate.

Борис Кон 26.08.2013 14:52

Цитата:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2730761)
And what in the ROC has entered celibacy?
<! - ~ 7 ~ ->

The priest of the secular clergy (do not bring religious profession) without marriage and ordination will not pass, do not ordain celibate.


Cyril, turn the sometimes humorous, of course if you have such a button.

Аркадий 26.08.2013 14:54

Цитата:

Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 2724691)
This is not an icon, a "cautionary picture."

Preservation is poor.

It is unlikely that someone will buy more than $ 100



That's right, this is the so-called
"Spiritual painting" Memory of the Death with traditional text and image.
Similar patterns could hang for example in the cells of the monks, along with icons ..

Кирилл Сызранский 26.08.2013 15:01

Вложений: 10
Цитата:

Сообщение от Boris Cohn (Сообщение 2730671)
So what?

The icons were hung in the certain places, and near to them, the more mixed up, hang pictures, even on religious topics is prohibited.

By the way, you can not hang next to the iconostasis, even photographs and lithographs, holy persons.

And you can not close?


Часовой пояс GMT +3, время: 00:25.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Перевод: zCarot