I do not wanted to hurt, I'll ETERNAL critic))))))) Including TOKAR 4 digits, as a young man)))) By the way TOKAR-borer - a profession NO))))) A "Stage", I
does not seem to measure skill, measure - the heir who are talented father or mother.
Good luck in your business!

The remark was clearly inappropriate. A profession , of course, was, is and will be.
Give help ( well, nothing with his kindness I can not do ) .

Tókar - worker , a specialist in the case of lathe - metal machining, rotating parts or rotary cutting tool for processing of wood, metal , plastic, organic glass , resin , etc. There are varieties of this professions such as turner karuselschik and turner - borer .
For the future : before incriminate companion (much more so - such as the layman ) the inaccuracy is not a sin to five or six times in the directory look . Well, Wikipedia, kraynyak . <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
Same as the turner ?
And this is - despite what stupa ...

A this what?
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By the way, I thought that this profession " out ahead of time ", in the words of Panikovski, and, it turns out, she is now in demand.

A turner KARUSELSCHIK, who is retired on a roundabout sells tickets?

 
Ne is the one who is working on vertical lathes in which the processing takes place by rotating parts by submitting a support with a certain velocity at different angles.

 Well, one does not exclude the other . To sixty - details on the boring mill processes , after sixty - sells tickets for the carousel ...
But you , Igor52, this is still too early to think about. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

We're a little distracted from the topic, but still nice to talk with creative people.
Thank you!
As long as the price increase will not))))))

Your kindness is bordered on recklessness!

Hello, dear friends! Since this is a forum , I want to ask. I am tormented by one question , where the measure of artistic talent ? Otherness ? Being sold on hyped auctions? Savvy PR ? A hard life ? Fleeting encounter in the cafe with his wife wife of the artist tycoon ( Salvador Dali) or CRAZY BRAIN BALANCE (Mikhail Vrubel , Van Gogh , Pavel Filonov , Mark Rothko , Antonio Gaudi , etc. ), or .....

THANK YOU
for your attention!

All you have listed + performance, luck, talent.
One has the talent but lazy.
Another works as a convict from morning to evening but not talented.
Unlucky not to that meter, not the other.