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AlexSpb 07.07.2012 23:41

I have been known to appear ridiculous is not afraid. And to acknowledge its errors are not shy.
But in this case has not yet convinced that the time has come for this.
Yet even with the naked eye can see, my thing, and given the green in the photo next to the Chinese the subject look like it was a copy of the original. Even on this forum, where many skilled and distrustful of people, no one suspected the origin of the modern stuff. But even if the Lancer "navodilnost" usually can be determined by visual inspection, as manufacturers try really there - God forbid! True, there always be on guard, and here, of course, expect to catch it difficult ... So, someone special, "refined" to such an authentic rickshaw states that for a very small amount (2,000 euros, will be frank), I sell?
Renounce, I repeat, not going to cheap Chinese manual labor has long been a legendary ...
How to use the available information? I guess sleeping with the Chinese and, in addition to the basic question is not whether it is their job to try to find out the name of the author of the original. After all, on their website, as far as I can see most things are based on a document (in particular, quite a lot of copies Chiparusa).
The results will report on the forum (if you deem it necessary, of course).

NATA NOVA 08.07.2012 00:00

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no one suspected the origin of the modern stuff

I suspect (but did not meddle , because there are powerful " visual umischi " and scholars imeyutsya. - cost without me ....)
(A purely thin. Level judge )
First , compilation, products , and secondly , the lack of school -like cap is planted , like wheel spokes are interpreted ... as a proportion of stylistic built .... ( style ?) Unity is not observed ... All the old masters was a school . (here all the obscenities , IMHO )

AlexSpb 08.07.2012 00:52

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 2162331)
I suspected (but did not meddle , because there are powerful " visual umischi " and scholars imeyutsya. - cost without me ....)
(A purely thin. Level judge )
First , compilation, products , and secondly , the lack of school -like cap is planted , like wheel spokes are interpreted ... as a proportion of stylistic built .... ( style ?) Unity is not observed ... All the old masters was a school . (here all the obscenities , IMHO )

In no case without calling into question your honesty , though cautiously , I note that we are all wise after the strong ...
Well as it turns out that the old original in nature, there ?
Incidentally, I continue to exist in his faith , including those due to lack of signatures. On the Chinese website swear that all things handmade, no stampings , and computer processing. The fact that all " Chiparusy " they have not subscribed , just points to the authenticity . And what , one wonders, meaning zababahivat such an original composition and not to sign it at the same time ?

NATA NOVA 08.07.2012 01:00

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Сообщение от AlexSpb (Сообщение 2162411)
Well as it turns out that the old original in nature there?

This is not background mind is intuition ...
No, (unfortunately) does not prove, that COMPILATION! (weak though, sorry)

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Сообщение от AlexSpb (Сообщение 2162411)
meaning of zababahivat such an original composition and not to sign it at the same time?

I do not know

tivat 08.07.2012 12:00

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Yet even with the naked eye can see , my thing, and given the green in the photo next to the Chinese the subject look like it was a copy of the original. Even on this forum , where many skilled and distrustful of people , no one suspected the origin of the modern stuff.

Alas, it shows. Low quality , artificial patina , a remake immediately catches the eye .

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Сообщение от AlexSpb (Сообщение 2162311)
So, someone special , " refined " to such an authentic rickshaw state to a very small amount (2,000 euros, will be frank ), I sell ?

Normal price for remake , considering the delivery of this mass and commission merchant.
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Сообщение от AlexSpb (Сообщение 2162311)
After all, on their website, as far as I can see most things are based on a document ( in particular, quite a lot of copies Chiparusa ).

I would not dare to call those copies of the work Chiparusa and others , well, just do not dare .

redbor 09.07.2012 12:30

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Сообщение от dabbler (Сообщение 2161561)
Ohohonyushki, well before then, am I predictable ...

Do not you, and Moishe.
Where was he to go?
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