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Кирилл Сызранский 02.09.2011 09:43

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Сообщение от Members (Сообщение 1756443)
the emphasis that the china that bronze medal, presented at the exhibition as something you do not want to refer to socialist realism.

In my opinion, the farther away, there are fewer will be referred to the term - "socialist realism".

artcol 02.09.2011 10:44

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 1756493)
In my view, the further, there are fewer will be referred to the term - "socialist realism".

Why?

Кирилл Сызранский 02.09.2011 11:14

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Сообщение от artcol; 1756573"
Why ?

Critics are already currently little use this vague term , preferring other definitions, and the audience is so used . stop : now asks many - " sotsart ? and social realism does not sotsart ?"
Socialist Realism called it the official art of the Soviet period , and there was plenty of everything: " austere style " and the Leningrad band " Eleven " ( and indeed, the "left wing " so to speak , of the Leningrad school ), and artists who now pricheslyayut to nonconformists, but that the official and sometimes exhibited .

Прохожий 02.09.2011 11:58

Totally agree with Cyril .

In addition, there is some typological confusion . Take, for example , " Bread" Yablonska - the clearest example of what is called " socialist realism ". At the same time if you look at some sketches for this painting - those in which the artist depicted a grain shovel, pieces of cloth , and much more "socially unaccented " - stylistically it ? If the same thing and just write , say, Perov, as it is called?

Therefore, it seems to me that " socialist realism " - a term of art from the point of view is not entirely correct .

artcol 02.09.2011 12:22

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 1756603)
Critics are already currently little use this vague term, preferring other definitions, and the audience is so used. stop: now asks many - "sotsart? and social realism does not sotsart?"
Socialist Realism called it the official art of the Soviet period, and there was plenty of everything: "austere style" and the Leningrad band "Eleven" (and indeed, the "left wing" so to speak, of the Leningrad school), and artists who are considered to nonconformists, but that the official and sometimes exhibited.

The term is really vague, but the content is something he is quite specific. I'll bet 10 cents that the term will :D> Just often confused - and substantially replace chronological and stylistic.

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Сообщение от Newbie (Сообщение 1756643)
Also there is some typological confusion. Take, for example, "Bread" Yablonska - the clearest example of what is called "socialist realism". At the same time if you look at some sketches for this painting - those in which the artist depicted a grain shovel, pieces of cloth, and much more "socially unaccented" - stylistically it? If the same thing and just write, say, Perov, as it is called?

Therefore, it seems to me that "socialist realism" - a term of art from the point of view is not entirely correct.

Why? The style of change, and method - no. And if the definition of art does not follow a chronological and informative - all quite correct. For example, if you take to Mr. industrial landscape. What to include? If everything is as is - for realism, and if everything is sublimely perfect, heroic working days, etc. - The Socialist Realism. Is not it so?

Кирилл Сызранский 02.09.2011 12:30

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1756653)
I bet 10 cents that the term will :D>

Somewhere - maybe.

But here is my colleagues around once already and do not use this term.

fabosch 02.09.2011 12:33

I agree with artcol, this term is not going anywhere.
I think that over time, diminish the sharpness when the socio-ideological confrontation, he will be perceived without the negative connotation

Кирилл Сызранский 02.09.2011 12:36

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Сообщение от artcol; 1756653"
For example , if you take to Mr. industrial landscape . What to include ?

Try to include industrial and landscape . :)>

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Сообщение от artcol; 1756653"
If everything is as is - for realism, but if there is sublimely perfect, heroic working days , etc.

And how can Makar in the industrial landscape picture , for example, " the heroism of working days "?
Smoke from factory pipes red paint ? Some " heroic" for draw bolts metellicheskih stroyascheygosya structures of mill ?
 :D>

artcol 02.09.2011 12:40

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 1756673)
somewhere - maybe .
But here is my colleagues around once already and do not use this term .

Well, actually - at all would like an abundance , qualitative social realism - a rare commodity. At least in our area. By definition, it is always informative - and with that the artists of the problem. Therefore, without a struggle against formalism has not done .

Кирилл Сызранский 02.09.2011 12:41

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Сообщение от fabosch (Сообщение 1756683)
, this term is not going anywhere.

This term will be only in the literary history of the Soviet period: 1st All-Union Congress of Soviet Writers in 1934, Maxim Gorky's speech there, and so on.


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