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Сообщение от Olga Ozolina (Сообщение 1665643)

did not specify what exactly Sov Z. and his views on the art market ? And what's his ranking ? I thought the contrary , it is increasingly toward globalization is .

The scale of the problems ( ogogo! ! ) - and the execution ( gygygy! ! ) :D >
Well, the details , of course , they scoop the most bold and hides . The concept of nomenclature is familiar to you? Sov such a thing ...

By the way , is very curious why you thought

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Сообщение от Olga Ozolina (Сообщение 1665643)

Conversely , it is more to globalization concerns .

That's a no , but the cast of the Western art market:
http://www.artfacts.net/en/artists/by-ranking.html
Why are there so few artists with an index of "RU"? Is it because that ZAGRAEVSKY rights , and we are still out there seen as a "third world "?

I remembered him long ago there was a special article on this subject , when there is no BRIX was not:
http://zagraevsky.com/thirdrome.htm

It is a pity that it has so many here are bad . I, of course , biased because his colleague , but still "bear the prophet in his own country ."

Olga Ozolina you have a sect, but ZAGRAEVSKY prophet or just to work here, using the forum Tits?
?

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Сообщение от Dogel (Сообщение 1676143)

You're just here to work

And here, I think almost all "on paper" in one way or another.
:)>

The second article ZAGRAEVSKY all is certainly not read well, was not interested. Loss art nothing. likely to read an article by political , similar to the speech of the deputy. Yet learned that ZAGRAEVSKY not very good dkmaet of the Turks . If you take the art , the same can be said about the west, the same questions to ask. Call at least one artist, composer , producer , etc. , I mean post-Soviet era as ZAGRAEVSKY said . Too anyone. There are no people create art , we can say the failure of 30 years , and yet no end in sight .

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 1676163)

we can say the failure of 30 years

20 years, when talking about "post-Soviet times."

Samvel, born in this "post-Soviet times" only to have nothing, they are still young, wait, and they will create works of art, music, movies will be removed.

Samvel, in the 2nd article, beginning with No. 2, just about all art is.

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So, perhaps, Russia remains an art? The Great Russian Art - in the broadest sense, which includes literature, theater and cinema, and architecture, painting and graphics, and sculpture?

.......

Hence, the dominance of merchant's bad taste and kitsch souvenir, along with social stratification, poverty, crime and other features of the "third world" in the Russian Federation has the objective perspective of the historical celebration.

Of course, the brilliant creators of Russia was, is and will be. But the geniuses in accordance with probability theory born in the United Arab Emirates, and Zimbabwe. And where they then go? In the best case - leaving the "first world" or re-classified as to earn a living art in the "third world" can only court scoundrels. In the worst case - the geniuses just eaten. Luckily, most recently in a figurative sense.

That this is the fundamental difference between "First World" from "third". There's the art of living, and here - was dying. Dying itself - without any harassment from the state, without high-profile crimes, no noisy scandals, without purposeful destruction of culture "small people" (as once in Turkey), without crushing bulldozers pictures (as was once the Soviet Union), without Quitting fingers musicians (like once in China), without throwing the poets in the mixer (like once in Argentina) ...

In the "third world" art of dying process is absolutely objective, and persecution, paradoxically, its just slow down. Back then, the "first world" raises a wave of protest, starting some action for the protection of persecuted artists ... And when all sewn-hush, hush so as a whim, then defend like a nobody.

And in the end does not know the civilized (and even more uncivilized) world of a single artist or an architect or a writer from Turkey, China, Nigeria or Iraq.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 1676183)

, born in this "post-Soviet times"

I'm talking about mature in post-Soviet era.

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And in the end does not know the civilized (and even more uncivilized ) world of a single artist or an architect or a writer from Turkey, China , Nigeria or Iraq.

That's when it was written ? In the year 2003 ?
But even then , the Chinese contemporary art was known.
The future Nobel laureate in literature, Turkish novelist Orhan Pamuk has written already and the "Black Book" and "Snow" , a Turkish film " alienation " Nuri Bilge Ceylan just in 2003, won the Grand Prix at the Cannes Film Festival. :)>

Kirill, skilled do not need any articles, and so they all know themselves. If desired, and open and glance Wikipedia list of artists in Turkey or Iraq, there are many. There is no broad resonance of contemporary art "third world", what's the trouble. And if there is no resonance, and the art market silence. Spiritual autism (another old term ZAGRAEVSKY).
And where, by the way, you live these artists from Nigeria, etc., are able to move? I think mostly in the "first world", usually in the U.S.. So ZAGRAEVSKY about this just says I already quoted:

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Of course, the brilliant creators of Russia was, is and will be. But the geniuses in accordance with probability theory born in the United Arab Emirates, and Zimbabwe. And where they then go? In the best case - leaving the "first world" or re-classified as to earn a living art in the "third world" can only court scoundrels. In the worst case - the geniuses just eaten. Luckily, most recently in a figurative sense.

That this is the fundamental difference between "First World" from "third". There's the art of living, and here - was dying. Dying itself - without any harassment from the state, without high-profile crimes, no noisy scandals, without purposeful destruction of culture "small people" (as once in Turkey), without crushing bulldozers pictures (as was once the Soviet Union), without Quitting fingers musicians (like once in China), without throwing the poets in the mixer (like once in Argentina) ...