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Cosmos and Chaos.

With all agree, but did not understand what I mean here:

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Сообщение от Art-lover (Сообщение 1609033)

so inverse to peppershteynovskoy interpretation and appeared to me more interesting - and ironic at the same time and sureznee "if you want

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1609021)

What's the seriousness of this is stated? Can ... Hmmm ... formulated?
Juggling symbols and postmodern irony, not more. A whole galaxy of jugglers represented in the collection art4.

Formulate a try, but to persuade - it's how it goes.
For juggling symbols and post-modern irony at Pepperstein I fancied the same as the fancies of poetry Kibirov (as I wrote above).
Here it is (Kibirov) juggles characters and irony in his spare.
Here I take almost at random:

Meanwhile faded chrysanthemums, as well as
purple sunset burnt out
a chemical plant, my angel. Lie down the same
so I whisper to you sing.

I'm not going to weasel your fire,
My friend, burn, fatigue,
because in my heart otzhivshem all former
fumbling again, again!

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That after all this mockery, as if in Kibirov there is something absolutely vzapravdeshnoe.
It is ironic that, indeed, worthy of irony, but at the same time over this can not be "ironic really, because it is a part of you, maybe not the best part, but one without which there will you as a person.
Tried to establish a shorter, but I do not know whether it is clear.

That's something I fancied and Pepperstein. I do not know, maybe in vain :)>

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Сообщение от Art-lover (Сообщение 1609033)

Comparison of the archaic (Greek) and avant-garde total utopias - productive theme, - just because of their incomplete "isomorphism". Greek "negumanoidnost" richer, which is why the inverse with respect to the interpretation of peppershteynovskoy and appeared to me more interesting - and ironic at the same time and sureznee "if you want (Yes, the ideal here and there, but fundamentally different. In the ancient tradition of homo still glimmering in the early morning fog, but this hazy image is already warmed by the human warmth, which is to occur, and in the vanguard of cosmogony is its radical "removal", the fruits of which we have the pleasure to enjoy. I do not think that, being guided by the compass of the vanguard, humans get out of the deep are .. .).

Yes, of course, the difference is how not to be, but the more interesting similarities. However because you can about the similarities continue.
For example, the fate of Greek sculpture and its degeneration in the Roman idols, and the fractional verbosity Hellenistic Laocoon.
And the fate of radical utopian avant-garde, degenerated almost in the Faberge eggs.
As for deep x., How to know where the road goes on, maybe it'll do when the compass ...

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Сообщение от fabosch (Сообщение 1609103)

try to formulate , but to persuade - it's how it goes .
For juggling symbols and post-modern irony at Pepperstein I fancied the same as the fancies of poetry Kibirov ( as I wrote above ) .
Here it is ( Kibirov ) juggles characters and irony in his spare.
Here I take almost at random :

Hmm ... Example with Kibirov as something very sleek, you know :D >
But Kibirov really serious, he in general classicist , despite the fact that clothes in ryaditsya PM .

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E. Yermolin points out that " creative problem Kibirov <...> - free translation of tradition into modern language , the embodiment of her in the living word . "

But Pepershteyn ... Although the course of your thoughts and analogy are clear, but I can not agree :o >
Yes, and in addition, your nasty TZ Literary works opus AP - Mythogenic Love castes . Method is the same , but that creativity can be applied K. already directly and compare . And once all becomes clear .

Threat Although both conceptual artist - P. interesting , I like :) " It may be called epic PM :D >

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1609121)

Hmm ... Example with Kibirov as something very sleek, you know :D>
But Kibirov really serious, he in general classicist, despite the fact that clothes in ryaditsya PM.

But Pepershteyn ... Although the course of your thoughts and analogy are clear, but I can not agree :o>
Yes, and in addition, your nasty TZ Literary works opus AP - Mythogenic Love castes. Method is the same, but that creativity can be applied K. already directly and compare. And once all becomes clear.

Threat Although both conceptual artist - P. interesting, I like :) "It may be called epic PM :D>

In my TZ more "is." rather than "that." And rightly you specified opus is probably scratching his head. And there's still treshepodobnye stories, novellas, "The Swastika and the Pentagon," etc.
But I still can not get rid of your feelings. Yes, and his "epic" I am impressed.
May be issued in wishful thinking
Well, so much the worse for the real :)>

- It croaks Well, she's dirty,
And the eye hit, and the legs are different,
Always dressed as a cleaning lady ...
- To hell with it - very desirable.

Everyone says that is not beautiful,
And I like these more.
Well such that navodchitsa?
But I still want more.

:D> :D> :D>

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Сообщение от fross (Сообщение 1604593)

Thank you , really strange looks Pepperstein inappropriate .

Indeed P. Pepperstein looks out of place in the subject " Russian Avant-Garde , " which in the first, that in the second - he's a contemporary artist !
Are fans of contemporary art is so helpless to identify the theme " Modern \\\\ current Russian art " ?
And in this thread to discuss Kulik Pepperstein , Blue Noses , etc. ?
Come on, gentlemen , all still flies from cutlets to separate !