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v-v 28.10.2009 02:38

I gave him a black and white work. To tell the truth, "not entered". To sell or wait?

eva777 28.10.2009 11:44

How much selling?

K-Maler 29.10.2009 05:08

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 10046)
Yes, and not difficult to forge. Expand the colored pieces on the snow or sand - and photographed. No examination did not identify.

Do not particularly want to croak, but the first thing that comes to mind when looking at these pictures - like Malevich ... Second, he tried to add something his own, it turned out, there are some details of the spatial - worked and new technical possibilities and the experience he has in the past he has exhibited a very interesting spatial arrangement devised. But now the crisis of ideas ... But I am interested in these disputes, which now seek connoisseurs ... If the very kind of image, all easily repeatable, you can make a lot of photos and a case that there are others like them. Van Gogh would be delighted if he could have a reproduction of Millet, whom he admired, or Delacroix, modern quality. Instead, he contented black and white prints with these authors. With painting everything is understandable, but now with work ... Ideas of "worked" in this paper they are "reproduced", and collectors argue about the "originals "...(?) In the case of photos - any amount is made up of originals ... But some verbal casuistry adopted another ...

Fed 30.10.2009 10:56

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 10186)
It is clear that this is not a reproduction, not Ikea, I have an expensive authoring thing. Who is without reflection - and in response to: Infante.


v-v 06.11.2009 23:31

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Сообщение от eva777 (Сообщение 667346)
How much are selling?

  I do not know ... interesting opinion of experts. giver - an art critic said that these works are no less than 60 thousand rubles.

Seriy 07.11.2009 00:01

I saw his work at auction Inkombank, they made a miserable impression of e-t zero decoration, homemade some have cost a penny ...
And the fact that geometric abstraction in the spirit of Malevich's actually very difficult in execution, I know from personal experience, trying to have thrown in the trash.

v-v 07.11.2009 20:39

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 684384)
when I saw his work at auction Inkombank, they made a miserable impression of e-t zero decoration, homemade some have cost a penny ...
And the fact that geometric abstraction in the spirit of Malevich's actually very difficult in execution, I know from personal experience, trying to have thrown in the trash.

You are very wrong! And this is either false or misleading.
Following your logic, and in the "Black Square" by Malevich - "zero decorative, and is fond of saying, IS Glazunov, draw a black square will be able to every schoolchild, armed with a ruler and paint.
Auction Inkombank 2002 did not lead as an example. It was an unprecedented sale of the collection. There are many "worth a penny." That's what I wrote about the auction of "Y": "Say, Infante artifact from the series" Suprematism games "that are included in all anthologies have been attributed to the" masses "and are $ 200, and its more recent, but" the museum "thing - at $ 2500 .
        In place of "Gelos", of course, it was necessary to stop this sale, completely undermine his professional reputation. But since this is unlikely to happen, gallery owners, museum workers, collectors, and even the artists should hurry up - such dumping has never been a long time and will not happen ". http://www.kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?DocsID=317885

Seriy 07.11.2009 20:54

what your zeal? What these comparisons with Malevich?
I just told him that feeling. Since I was there in person (already mentioned) and could buy without any problems, just do not like it, no regrets. There are knowledgeable people, they are treated well, although the money they had pockets full.
   decorative - a very important element, looking at the great Nepriznannogoprizhiznigeniya Van Gogh's see how much effort he spends on that? to achieve a decorative effect. Yellow and blue is the mask of Tutankhamen, T e is the eternal problem-showy color solution.
Like-buy ...
And if you all so you can see such an obvious genius of the author, where were you in 2002? that, 200 dollars (I think even cheaper than it was) was not in your pocket? Do not believe it!
So why then is the heat sink? if it is obvious, go and buy, come from Paris, London and buy ... 200 dollars a pair of decent shoes you can not buy ... But no, do not want to buy, but want to talk ... :-)

Евгений 07.11.2009 21:22

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 684384)
when I saw his work at auction Inkombank, they made a miserable impression of e-t zero decoration

Dear Seriy, the work of Infante are located in the collections:

State Museum of Fine Arts. AS Pushkin (Moscow)
The State Tretyakov Gallery (Moscow)
The State Russian Museum (St. Petersburg)
Museum of modern art ART4.RU (Moscow)
Moscow Museum of Modern Art (Moscow)
National Center for Contemporary Art (Moscow)
Moscow House of Photography (Moscow)
State Cultural Center - Museum VS Vysotsky (Moscow)
Jane Voorhees Zimmerli Museum, a collection of the Norton and Nancy Dodge, Rutgers University (New Brunswick, New Jersey, USA)
Brooklyn Museum (New York, USA)
National Collection of Contemporary Art (Paris, France)
Museum Art Gallery (Peterborough, UK)
Museum of Contemporary Art (Seoul, South Korea)
Setagaya Art Museum (Tokyo, Japan)
Kolodzei Art Foundation (Hyland Park, New Jersey, USA)
Museum of Fine Arts University Columbus (Columbus, Ohio, USA)
Institute of Contemporary Russian Culture (Los Angeles, USA)
Wilhelm-Hack Museum (Ludwigshafen, Germany)
Kunstmuzeum (Bern, Switzerland)
Museum of Art (Lodz, Poland)

Collection Eugene Nutovich (Moscow)
Collection Valeria Dudakova, Marina Khashuri (Moscow)
Collection Kostaki (Athens, Greece)
Collection Lenz Schoenberg (Zolli, Austria)
Collection of Bar-Gera (Cologne, Germany)
Collection Gallery Gmurzhinska (Cologne, Germany)
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Infante recognition in the world the artist is not even being discussed.
  Works in the museum of modern art ART4.RU (Moscow)
  http://www.art4.ru/ru/artists/detail.php?ID=370

Seriy 07.11.2009 21:27

Eugene, left you to answer the question personally-why in this case, "which is not discussed" - you come and bought up all these amazing masterpieces? for $ 200 ..

do not misunderstand me-I do not mind referring to the author's genius, I'm against it, as it is delicately put it, well, when they say - genius, take a look, genius ... Well, buy a Genius, asking $ 200 .. neeee, it we do not have ...
By the way, one thing for which I went there for 200 dollars is not sold, fighting and throwing tens of thousands of dollars I'm a fool, I thought, once such a price reduction, if not .. no, they said, is we take ourselves ..


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