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zarajara 29.03.2011 14:57

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Сообщение от Ika-Ika (Сообщение 1577461)
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 Recently, faced with a new trick : the artist assigns a price and galereyschitsa democratically agrees and takes from the sale of polovinu.No author does not know how much it it will prodavat.Naprimer , he appointed 100 rubles , 50 rubles to it , 50 to him , and sold it work for tysyachu.Eto already wrapping is not 100 %and 1000 %! Not bad ? Very good !
 

In theory, his gallery work out the percentage of reputation and the work that is not immediately obvious ( a cook includes contacts with the media , alerting customers , etc. ) . So that the price included not only prints . But often the work of the gallery is only to provide " bed space " that is simply located in the passage location . A gentle soul artist " hurt not only the stockings , but also frank rudeness . It seems to me that the matter in this case is just that. " stockings " just visualization , label this attitude .

Ika-Ika 29.03.2011 14:58

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Сообщение от Vivien (Сообщение 1577833)
Ika-Ika, you are offended by my last post?

No, not offended.

Кирилл Сызранский 29.03.2011 15:02

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Сообщение от Vivien (Сообщение 1577833)
Ika-Ika, you are offended by my last post?


You mean "ischeznovshee" message?

There is nothing offensive was not for nothing was removed.

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Сообщение от "zarajara (Сообщение 1577841)
A" gentle soul artist "hurt not only the stockings, but also frank rudeness.

Possible in these places just do not walk with gallerists not cooperate.

Just forget about them.

Вивьен 29.03.2011 15:04

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Сообщение от "Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1577871)
There is nothing offensive was not for nothing was removed.

Was not.
Only a statement of fact for today ...
The first time in my life, I wonder why removed?
:)

Seriy 29.03.2011 15:33

The closer I get acquainted with the art business, the more convinced that no over-painting is not, rather there is a deficit.
 The thesis of "overproduction" is based on several false postulates:
1. Any movement of a brush on canvas is a painting that can and should be sold. Wrong.
2.Obektivnaya assessment of the quality of painting is impossible, critics of muddy water, because of this pricing comes from the ceiling. Wrong.
3. The artist has only one desire-to make as many pictures and sell them immediately as expensive as possible. As a rule, is not true for a good artist.
4. Galleries packed with all the works of artists and are just waiting for a buyer. Wrong.
5. Collectors are buying the work, so at the first price increase to send it to the auction. Wrong.
 
 The reality is that quality works of art can produce a fairly limited range of masters. The money is not the main motivation for them. For example, in the U.S. average price of a little-known paintings profhudozhnika 10.5 thousand dollars for sale of one painting a month for 10 thousand covers all normal expenses, and sell 5 paintings per month artist does not have the money nowhere to be a virgin, unless he decides to live a different life not an artist.
In the more well-known artists with little name price picture 20 thousand dollars and they need to sell paintings even less for a normal life.
This is what we are seeing Peter Doig paintings did not rush to stamp on a wave of interest in him, live klasssiki type of Jasper Johns also did not produce long. Legend of the enormous productivity of Picasso and tens of thousands of pictures of his hands is a myth. Online directory now has over 20 thousand works including paintings, ceramics, and up to sketch in a notebook.
 Once logged in a large and well-known galleries in the same San Francisco - have a huge list of authors with whom gallery works. And half of the gallery zero work - all sold and no new revenue. And it's not just superstars, it refers to the normal average level of 20 authors thousand dollars and if there is, of nightmarish quality, tons of e on thee, my God, that we have more useless.
 We go to commercial galleries, selling Russian-sponsored a salon of poor quality, the owners say, are not good, sometimes have to beg the artist to the thread that wrote to us, nothing to sell.
And let us visit the forum section on buying and selling, that abundance?
This is my opinion.

Кирилл Сызранский 29.03.2011 15:51

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 1577953)
in the same San Francisco

And yes you are about Moscow of Sank-Petersburg is better.

You do not collegiate registrar Timothy Ivanov Temples, is it all about "sanfransiske" dream ...
:D

Seriy 29.03.2011 16:04

Cyril Syzransky, and as it turns out that I have a situation in the galleries of SF know better than to Moscow , talked with a lot of gallery owners , visited more galleries . And in Moscow I did not live most of the year , and all the less :-) Based on visits to Central House of Artists and Art - Manege - like situation . For many styles of work simply does not generally such as expressionism , cubism, abstr.ekspressionizm . And in the traditional genres of Russia to find a living , not a salon job very difficult . You are currently viewing the forum section - selling ?

Кирилл Сызранский 29.03.2011 16:12

[QUOTE="Seriy; 1578053]Yes, and in the traditional genres of Russia to find a living, not a salon job very difficult.[/QUOTE]

Name your budget, I'm in line with your numbers you'll find everything you want: [I][B][COLOR="Navy"]If you want white top, black bottom - please, if you want a black top, white bottom - no problem![/
COLOR][/B][/I] (c)

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Сообщение от "Seriy (Сообщение 1578053)
You are currently viewing the forum section-selling?

Painting does not sell on the forums /pkupayut.

Though here I was buying and selling their participants.
Sometimes, yes.

Seriy 29.03.2011 16:45

Collector , a profession , EM these must be dealt with seriously . I am also now an artist , it's a different profession . Yes, sometimes I buy or try to buy the work of another artist , but I spontaneously .
Last time I tried ( some in the forum to date ) has been named an unrealistic price , the deal never took place . And the specialists I 'm not looking for work .
But thanks for the offer - life ahead of big and interesting , and can take advantage of :-)
 Remembered .. Recently my friend wanted to buy a copy of "Golden Autumn " Levitan ( not full size ) up to 1 thousand dollars , obezdil almost half of Moscow through the galleries , businesses and artists . Do not buy something that was offered was of dubious quality. (As I had warned him )
If you have , send .

iside 29.03.2011 17:24

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Сообщение от "Fed (Сообщение 1577681)
And even more so in terms hud.pereproizvodstva


With this it is very difficult to argue.
Proposal (in the segment kontemporari) clearly exceeds the demand.
:(


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