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Тихая Сапа 04.02.2011 22:45

Healthy logic. Unlove expert from the directory (pdcherknu, I still think it lazhovym) not on the basis profneprigodnosti, and on the principle of "hurt me."
What kind of rating experts then can we talk? Let's hold beauty contests or competition Lapushka year. "
They are for Breit experts may be more effective than their real expert skills.
 Unfortunately the trouble, in my opinion antikvrnogo community that it is too amenable to the emotions at the expense of professionalism. If there had been oiled machine out of the market charlatans of all sorts, but, alas, it will remain my girlish dreams.

Artem 04.02.2011 22:46

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Сообщение от Silent Sapa (Сообщение 1511891)
In my opinion seriously on this directory is not. The full effect that the author of losses among the antiquities market, dragged first got the information from the Internet and slabal pamphlet

Totally disagree with you! I watched his film about forgery experts "Scary Movie"-a very funny filmets. Recommend

Sm.zdes-www.russianartmedia.com Video RussianArt.TV film "Bugs, or a scam."
Renowned expert TG Petrov, an expert debunks the mafia. Pay attention to the text from the author at the beginning of a film about the expert Vladimir Petrov

Кирилл Сызранский 04.02.2011 22:49

[QUOTE="K-Maler; 1512191]Ie
not just art history diploma or training courses for examination "(as they begin to spawn).[/QUOTE]

It is not enough, yes, we must still pass [URL="http://rosohrancult.ru/projects/expert/"]certification[/URL] in Rosokhrankultura.

SergeiSK 04.02.2011 22:53

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Сообщение от "Silent Sapa (Сообщение 1512201)
not on the basis profneprigodnosti, and on the principle of" hurt me ".

Write about profneprigodnost Glebova not entirely ethical.
Therefore, only private.
And as for the production know who had the opportunity to communicate with her during the examination.
In short no comment.

олег назаров 05.02.2011 05:22

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Сообщение от "SergeiSK (Сообщение 1510871)
Why do something in this list does not include specialists from the Russian Museum.

from the Russian Nesterov is ....
but I would add a couple more names ...

Тихая Сапа 05.02.2011 11:27

Who, if not secret, but most interesting is why.


Because I'm in the selection of characters in the directory sincerely do not see the logic.

Toinen 05.02.2011 13:44

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Сообщение от "Silent Sapa (Сообщение 1511891)
dragged the first got the information from the Internet and slabal pamphlet


100!
That is exactly what situation.

Artem 05.02.2011 13:47

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Сообщение от Oleg Nazarov, 1512711
from the Russian Nesterov is .... but I would add a couple more names ...


is in the directory - Goldovsky Grigory Naumovich
Head of the Department of Painting XVIII-XIX centuries, the State Russian Museum.

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Сообщение от Silent Sapa (Сообщение 1512871)
Because I'm in the selection of characters in the directory sincerely do not see the logic

 What kind of logic do you mean - the formal, mathematical, abstract, dialectical, multifunction ...

For us, the new collectors and buyers is important uznas opinion of professionals of experts from the directory. Objective assessment of their knowledge or not.
And get involved in controversy - not ochem simply no time or desire ... Thank you.
Sincerely, Artem

Тихая Сапа 05.02.2011 17:39

I'm not the tolerate controversy "about nothing". The fact that I did not see the logic "means that in my view, a set of names is quite accidental. Why, so if we talk specifically, LV Gelenek (GRC) is, and IE Lomize (THG) do not (to me they seemed quite in the same category as age and professional). Or why the list of experts on the chart is not OP Khromova (RSL)? Well, later in the same spirit. Therefore, the question "why" for me the main one.
I suggested why it (because the directory is made irresponsible manner), but can me someone's eyes open?

kr555 05.02.2011 17:58

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Сообщение от Silent Sapa (Сообщение 1513231)
Why, so if we talk specifically, LV Gelenek (GRC) is, and IE Lomize (THG) do not (to me they seemed quite in the same category as age, so and professional).

Because Roshchin not think Lomidze be worthy of inclusion in this list. That's from his recent interview, there was already a link to the forum:
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One of the largest collectors in Russia Pyotr Aven spoke sharply about what is happening does not fit into any frame, Institute of expertise simply does not work, and some experts have long time to go to jail. "I think that we should not hesitate to name names - he said in an interview published in the third part of the catalog imitations. - These experts or THG Valyaeva Lomize. They are very few people trust. There are people like critic Svetlana Jafarova, it's really professional and knowledgeable woman, deliberately embarked on the path of selling fakes ».
http://antikvar.ua/publications/1822


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