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Евгений 14.01.2011 22:38

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Сообщение от "Konstantin (Сообщение 1468731)
Remind them like we discussed these pictures.

http://artinvestment.ru/news/auctnew...xhibition.html

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Toinen 14.01.2011 22:55

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Сообщение от "Eugene (Сообщение 1469341)
can not sell these pictures ....


But you can return for a ransom.
(As an option)

олег назаров 14.01.2011 22:55

I think Tarantseva just and offer redemption.

Евгений 14.01.2011 22:59

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Сообщение от Toinen (Сообщение 1469361)
But you can return for a ransom.
(As an option)

Who Tarantseva?
You laugh?
What's the ransom would be alive to these petty thief to stay ...

Pecheneg 14.01.2011 23:32

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 1469341)
sell these paintings not ...

First zalyagut to the bottom and then vyvezut for "hill", and there will be an attempt to seek to merge ... Burglars know what went ...

A vrezultate they are caught as a Caravaggio from the Odessa Museum of ...

Konstantin 15.01.2011 00:11

Yes, the news stirred the public, our office telephoned various media with the question of how much are these paintings so that they can do, and as the apogee of 19-30 came to the TV crew to interview. They are all interested in the question whether there is a black market, such as black market weapons from archaeologists. When heard from me that there is no black market in black and collectors at each other in disappointment.
Size paintings by Aivazovsky - 28x40 cm I appreciated the range is $ 150-300 - also a sigh of frustration, "So little?"

Toinen 15.01.2011 00:16

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 1469491)
is also a sigh of frustration, "So little?"


Pripishut zeros themselves.

Игорь Гурьев 15.01.2011 05:48

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Сообщение от sergejnowo (Сообщение 1469191)
yes, fact.


At the moment, the moment until the works have a label of "theft", they clearly are not worth much.

I wonder how expensive you can sell a stolen work with the market price of $ 1.000.000?
:)


And by the way, I also thought about it.

I think about 5-10 per cent,
from 50 to 100 thousand.

Money, too, incidentally.

Евгений 15.01.2011 09:07

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor; 1469631"
And by the way, I also thought about it.
I think about 5-10 per cent, from 50 to 100 thousand.

Anatoly, a petty thief need to think about the price of funeral services (this is now for them is very relevant information) ...
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But seriously, we will wait for information from the site Rosokhrankultura http://rosohrancult.ru/projects/investigation/
"Search for lost and stolen cultural property" with a detailed description of the stolen paintings and antiques ..

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor; 1469631"
And by the way, I also thought about it.
I think about 5-10 per cent, from 50 to 100 thousand.

Anatoly, a petty thief need to think about the price of funeral services (this is now for them is very relevant information) ...
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But seriously, we will wait for information from the site Rosokhrankultura http://rosohrancult.ru/projects/investigation/
"Search for lost and stolen cultural property" with a detailed description of the stolen paintings and antiques ..

Тютчев 15.01.2011 11:02

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 1469671)
Information on the theft of "artistic plaque" http://www.kommersant.ru/doc-rss.aspx?DocsID=1568516


I consider it necessary to publish online an article from Kommersant completely. Pay attention to the debate between Oleg Tairov and Marat Gelman.


Artistic raid

The newspaper Kommersant »№ 5 (4546) on 15.01.2011
 
In Moscow an audacious robbery on the estate of a well known businessman - President of the group of companies "Russian Gold" Alexander Tarantseva. Bandits have stolen a collection of paintings by the entrepreneur, including works by Russian painters Aivazovsky, Shishkin, Repin and Savrasov, and a large quantity of jewelry and cash. In the group of companies "Russian gold" reported yesterday that the damage exceeded $ 50 million

The attack on the estate of Alexander Tarantseva, located in a specially protected medical-health complex administration of the Russian president "Rublevsky (village Petrovo Far Krasnogorsk district) have been committed on January 13 at four o'clock in the morning. Four criminals in masks with guns in their hands climbed over the fence of the estate, disarmed and tied up two employees Chop "Bastion-T", patrolling the estate, and then entered the house businessman.

Alexander himself Tarantsev resting now with his family in the U.S., the house was only managing estate Yevgeny Frolov. Bandits beat Mr. Frolov, and then searched the house. According to police, the criminals took everything of value that came to him by the arm - from the silverware to the works of art. They even stole two mobile phones the manager and his wallet, which was 105 thousand rubles. But the most valuable part of the production of hijackers is a collection of paintings by Russian artists, diamond jewelry and antiques, some of which formerly belonged to Russia's imperial Romanov family.

Yesterday the spokesman of the group of companies "Russian Gold" Yuri Bondarenko said that, according to preliminary estimates, the damage from the assault more than $ 50 million agree with such assessments and experts of art and antique market. "I know the collection of Mr. Tarantseva. He had the only original things with good attribution" - told Kommersant director of the art center's "Belvedere", a member of the Confederation of antique and art dealers Oleg Tairov.

According to Mr. Tairov, a businessman, "very well paid, so things in his collection were sold only known antique dealers with an impeccable reputation."

Accurate inventory of stolen has not yet been compiled, but we already know that in the hands of the raiders were works by Aivazovsky, Shishkin, Repin and Savrasov. For example, among the stolen painting Repin "Cossack" and Aivazovsky painting "The ship at sea."

"Sales of these work in Russia is practically impossible, likely, they will try to take abroad," - says Oleg Tairov. According to him, "a collection of Tarantseva well known, and the world Russian collectors and antique dealers is small, so if some of the paintings will be offered for sale within the country, this will be known immediately.

In turn, a famous gallery owner and a member of the Public Chamber's Commission on preservation and development of national culture, Marat Gelman, in contrast, believes that the pictures will not be exported from Russia. He was confident that the raid involved the so-called black collectors. "Most of the world, such thefts are made to order, when known in advance the person who wants to buy stolen goods," - said Mr. Gelman. At the same time, he explained that in his opinion, stolen a long time will be in the collection of the customer deposit, if it can not find the police.

True, it is worth noting that Mr. Tairov with the opinion of his colleague Gelman yesterday strongly disagreed. "In Russia there are no black antique dealers and collectors who bought raids on collectors of professional thugs" - says Oleg Tairov. He was confident that the hijackers did not act on the request, but just got into the rich house, where there is always something to make money.

In the group of companies "Russian gold" yesterday did not put forward theories about who could mount an attack on the estate of their president. "Hopefully, law enforcement agencies in any case will demonstrate their inherent ingenuity and perseverance and will be able to find the criminals," - said Yuri Bondarenko.


Alexander Zheglov

http://kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?DocsID=1568516


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