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Кирилл Сызранский 04.02.2011 17:35

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Сообщение от MarinaM (Сообщение 1511471)
why people are not interested in real art.

The "people" are not interested in art, not because of the high prices for works of this art on the art market.
Interested in - it does not buy it - go to museums and exhibitions, to know the history of art at least his country.

GalARTA 04.02.2011 17:38

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1511491)
The" people "are not interested in art, not because of the high prices

think so too. Art of never was and never will be popular. Even in museums go, I guess 10 percent at best. But buying art altogether units - a fact of life.)

MarinaM 04.02.2011 17:47

Cyril, you believe that we do not go to exhibitions?
Queue in a museum is much longer than in selling the picture, and about the asking price, even fear.

And those who buy from you pictures, they go on the show?

Кирилл Сызранский 04.02.2011 17:53

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Сообщение от MarinaM (Сообщение 1511551)
Do you think that we do not go to exhibitions?

Very, very small, and the queue instance, you can watch only at weekends or on some very much hit the exhibition at the Pushkin once a year or two. I can turn back at least within the last 5 years, counted on the fingers of one hand.
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Сообщение от MarinaM (Сообщение 1511551)
And those who bought from you the pictures, they go on the show?

They not only walk, they organize exhibitions, participate in the release of albums, etc.

GalARTA 04.02.2011 17:53

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Сообщение от "MarinaM (Сообщение 1511471)
Hard GalARTA.
You tried to survive with such approaches in a real business!

Are you on any real business judging?

Seriy 04.02.2011 18:01

GalARTA, when I first arrived in America, at night, January 1, 1990, at the airport in San Francisco I met a man in a car and drove to town, entertaining conversation. It was not a taxi driver and not hired "six" in the wings. It was one of the richest people in America do not know, it was believed his condition, in hundreds of millions or billions of them was still a family, America has called him simply Dzheymc Henry IV (suspended). In San Francisco in his office waiting for us men and struck up an interesting conversation about "restructuring" and buduyuschem planet Earth, which I did not understand half because of the lisp Henry James IV plus me sleepy on the difference in time zones - 11 hours from Moscow .
Then I was young to not think, but now often wonder, now that they moved (at the same time he held the Internet in Russia and much equipped in Russia (and many who) - white bone, an aristocrat, mulmillioner rode at night to meet the flight from Moscow of a a lousy Russian? A-he wanted to be part of something bigger, he wanted to change the world around them and in myself and he wanted to do it all myself, personally, with his hands. He could not afford it.
Life does not consist in the possession of more or less money. And the art business is not only money and not just because of money.
In my reply to you was not sarcasm, nor despair. I can not sell the picture-in my financial situation is absolutely nothing will change. But I sold them because I need a real human recognition and a real audience. If he had paid for my picture its hard-earned money, so I did something worthwhile. Something real.
On the cost of paints, canvases, I say this because many people think that the production of a picture is worth 3 of the ruble. We must speak, and the cost of the process and that is the preparatory work, spending money, too, that no artist can not sell 100%of the work, so too it is laid in the price. And visit the studio to practice drawing hands, too, costs money. And exhibitions are a lot of money - the buyer should know about it - of what constitutes a cost picture besides the talent and ambition of the artist. No complaints about it.

 Of course, you're right, man is so constituted that wants to intrigue, wants to return investments. But along with this person wants to beauty and harmony. Many are buying pictures because of this. "Iron" business people that "no place for empathy, compassion, understanding," make me smile ... probably because in 1990, Henry James IV gave me a shot of this tinsel.

MarinaM 04.02.2011 18:14

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Сообщение от GalARTA (Сообщение 1511581)
Are you on any real business to judge?

GalARTA, let me not specify the business (he is not mine), and we have, of course, the product is high-price segment, and it is very income. But there are other price segments, and basic earnings yield still they are. Due to the volume. And only the elite, we probably would not have survived.
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1511571)
Very, very small, and the queue instance, you can watch only at weekends or on some very much hit the exhibition at the Pushkin once a year or two. I can turn back at least within the last 5 years, counted on the fingers of one hand.

You're right Cyril. I also go to the museum only on weekends and holidays. Just the other days I work, and our museums are open until 17 TUE.

Seriy 04.02.2011 19:52

GalARTA, 100-200 dollars is, of course, unworthy fee picture. But there are people on the forum who bought my oil for 1500 rubles. And I feel only gratitude for what was then supported me. So that 200 dollars for me to progress. Set prices and sell other works for some time, waiting until the buyer is ripe? A suddenly matured? Rising prices, IMHO, should occur in parallel with other events in his career, including increasing the technical level of work. I'll write better, it all feel the same and increasing happen naturally.

iside 04.02.2011 19:56

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Сообщение от MarinaM (Сообщение 1511471)
One very famous winemaker in Italy. Wines that have a lot of awards and high ratings of experts in each milleziume not specifically raise the prices of some wines (highly valued), assuming that it is not very wealthy people also should drink good wine ...

MarinaM, a bottle of good wine in Italy is from 5 to 15 euros, to afford such a wine can do everything, so some strange example.

Fed 04.02.2011 20:39

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 1511841)
bottle of good wine in Italy is from 5 to 15 euro

It can be seen is a really good wine with a price tag of 30 to 80 $ (min).
And not the good for the masses.


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