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mezon 18.05.2009 23:43

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 391356)
I told without water. This has already been written, rewritten. I can only congratulate you that you already begin to see in the "Black Square" a biography of the artist and all that. And tell me in which of the copies? And the ideas in greater detail.
And if possible, without general phrases. I like how many have not studied the life and work of Kazimir Malevich - nichkgo not see any in the "Black ...", or in" Red ...". In the "Infante"-see, as in "Square .." - No. So help me!


"Chorny square on a white background - a symbol that bears Philosophical, religious, and conceptual. There is a version that Malevich painted a picture inspired by her son's death in October 1915. The picture appeared on the show in St. Petersburg in December 1915 in the "red corner" where you would normally hang icons. In the Christian symbolism of the "Four" - used to denote the four evangelists. as well as square and cube; symbolizes earth, white light - the color of purity; Chorniy color-color used during the funeral service, in conjunction with white symbolizes purity.
Malevich himself in his lectures on art called the square "Regal baby" thereby cblizhaya image Squares with the image of Christ. Malevich called his "Chorny Square ikonoy.No compared with icon Suprematist square is a strong mental shift in the canon, in which the author himself may be beyond the hristianstva.Predstavlennaya picture was as if the border strip - between art and non-art , between logic and illogic, being and nothingness, between the extreme simplicity and infinite complexity. K. Malevich declared that the "Black Square" art ends, that his picture is the peak and end of all art.
  Perhaps you and read about it, but have not made their choice in favor of "Chorny square" because you want to do without philosophy ... What do you choose? What is your "square" your idea? Explain this, please, no philosophy and common phrases. If I will not help, then you can help me?

SAH 18.05.2009 23:48

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Сообщение от mezon (Сообщение 392556)
is a symbol that bears Philosophical, religious, and conceptual.

For me, religion in the first place, then perhaps the concept and then the philosophical, yes I think so. " I have always considered the black square symbol, symbolism of the 20 th century.

mezon 18.05.2009 23:57

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Сообщение от SAH (Сообщение 392566)
For me, religion in the first place, then perhaps the concept and then the philosophical, yes I think so. " I have always considered the black square symbol, symbolism of the 20 th century.

 
   Probably agree with you. I think our views coincide not the first time:)

яня 19.05.2009 00:04

SAH and gans
Regarding the beautiful artist's model.
How long this artist's model at one time considered and agreed (and not only me) to a curious conclusion:
is of models!:)
Haircut somehow disturbing, and some anatomical details ...
Every course is, however, if you remember, as Vasily Yakovlev loved classics, one can imagine that this sort of fantasy on the theme mikelandzhelovskih sibyls.
Or not? : confused:

Кирилл Сызранский 19.05.2009 00:22

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Сообщение от mezon (Сообщение 392556)
Malevich himself in his lectures on art called the square "Regal baby" thereby cblizhaya image Squares with the image of Christ. Malevich called his "Chorny square" icon.

There must still remember that Malevich himself be buried in a coffin, realized in the form of a cross, where his body was to lie down with outstretched arms.
But his disciples were afraid to do it already.

artcritic 19.05.2009 00:28

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 392606)
Here we have yet to remember that Malevich himself be buried in a coffin, realized in the form of a cross, where his body was to lie down with outstretched arms.
But his disciples were afraid to do it already.

Well it is already too

Кирилл Сызранский 19.05.2009 00:32

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Сообщение от artcritic (Сообщение 392616)
Well this is too much

Why?

artcritic 19.05.2009 00:35

On what basis so defiantly violate the Christian rite of burial?

SAH 19.05.2009 00:39

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Сообщение от Yan (Сообщение 392586)
With regard to the beautiful artist's model.
How long this artist's model at one time considered and agreed (and not only me) to a curious conclusion:
that of models!

He remembered two or three years ago, has watched the exhibition in Paris which were studies introduced drawings, sketches by Leonardo da Vinci. Images on them were angels with wings, and it seems people like the Mona Lisa, while with rampant members, I never seen such a Leonardo.

artcritic 19.05.2009 00:41

This is certainly not Leonardo, but what a forger =)


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