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Кирилл Сызранский 08.08.2013 10:42

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What about you say ? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
Here , again , and said enough to you all is clear.
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Now it is clear why you are writing all the time about the great French school of painting - you can see that you like Bonnard and Vuillard . And Hopper is also a wonderful artist , you 're absolutely right
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Yes , Matisse , too .
But now it would not hurt you to show a bit of independence , in your paintings the influence of all these artists , who died more than half a century ago , is too obvious. And at the same time to learn not to dance and move , clear picture from everything unnecessary )))
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But in your work 80 - 90th . not too much undigested Hopper and yes, of course, Wyatt - no way to forget about it you do not give - could cause a lot of actual matches - but both American compositionally very strict, even stingy , and you have a tendency to clutter . And in 2000 the paintings there is the same undigested influence of the French 1900-1920 .


Pavel 08.08.2013 10:50

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky; 2706451"
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Now it is clear why you are writing all the time about the great French school of painting - you can see that you like Bonnard and Vuillard. And Hopper is also a wonderful artist, you're absolutely right
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Yes, Matisse, too.
But now it would not hurt you to show a bit of independence, in your paintings the influence of all these artists, who died more than half a century ago, is too obvious. And at the same time to learn not to dance and move, clear picture from everything unnecessary)))
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But in your work 80 - 90th. not too much undigested Hopper and yes, of course, Wyatt - no way to forget about it you do not give - could cause a lot of actual matches - but both American compositionally very strict, even stingy, and you have a tendency to clutter. And in 2000 the paintings there is the same undigested influence of the French 1900-1920.
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Too much to digest and absorb too? Liana nice woman, but as an art brought up by itinerant. Patriotism is a good thing, but we need to know what the impact is and what the shoulders of giants. The influence and Hopper and Wyatt was at all, but kompelyatsiya is quoting for phrases copying fragments. In Stroganov was up as training and all the walls are hung with peramidelafrancheskimi and Jyoti, etc. The influence of the Soviet monumental painting Italians indisputable. Influence can not be copied fragments is commerce. Cheap.

Кирилл Сызранский 08.08.2013 10:58

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Too digest and absorb too ? Lana is a nice woman , but as an art brought up by itinerant . Patriotism is a good thing , but we need to know what the impact is and what the shoulders of giants. The influence and Hopper and Wyatt was at all, but kompelyatsiya is quoting for phrases copying fragments. In Stroganov was up as training and all the walls are hung with peramidelafrancheskimi and Jyoti , etc. The influence of the Soviet monumental painting Italians indisputable. Influence can not be copied fragments is commerce . Cheap.



Zhevanina some indigestible , a stream of consciousness of the patient , delirium Chela in alcohol intoxication with changes in psychological and behavioral functions , I am afraid that in the physiological already .

Хранитель укропа 08.08.2013 11:13

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Reading materials gallery concluded that the paintings grow in value at resale , as they are included in the active turnover . That is, if the popularity of the artist grows, rising in price and pictures, which, for example , it owns . But if they are wrapped , the value increases more rapidly . Secondary sales bring in more revenue than the primary .. Is that true , or is it just my imagination ?
That is, for a more rapid increase in the cost necessary to create the market works ?

With your conclusions is difficult to disagree , especially that " we need to create the market works ." I do not understand the other , check , for example, artnau , look - a good artist . Written works of ~ 150, sold only ~ 5 . The prices exhibited a relatively high value of the average monthly salary in the country from 35 to 75 thousand ..
And the artist of their indexes on the exchange rate ( on the rise ), and no sales . It would be logical from my point of view, just to drop in price, than to see what works for years without cost of sales as a " horse at the trough ."
Although, who knows, maybe people with psycho sorry to part with them <! - ~ 1 ~ -> .

Artoil-A 08.08.2013 11:26

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Zhevanina some indigestible , a stream of consciousness of the patient , delirium Chela in alcohol intoxication with changes in psychological and behavioral functions , I am afraid that is already under physiological .
The loss of a realistic assessment of the situation and the role of the self ... finish ...

You happen to have learned to imitate and a psychiatrist !
Shorter. Russian art divorced in the 20. from the world market , has degenerated , leaving the copier school of painting.

Хранитель укропа 08.08.2013 11:28

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Zhevanina some indigestible , a stream of consciousness of the patient , delirium Chela in alcohol intoxication with changes in psychological and behavioral functions , I am afraid that is already under physiological .
The loss of a realistic assessment of the situation and the role of the self ... finish ...

You are very sharp , Cyril . To evaluate mental health or ill health - a lot of psychiatrists with experience of 5 years , let them leave this hard bread.
Best regards .

artcol 08.08.2013 11:33

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2706531)
Lana Pretty Woman,.

And also smart, pleasant and well-mannered man <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Кирилл Сызранский 08.08.2013 11:34

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to assess the mental health or ill health - a lot of psychiatrists with experience of 5 years, let them leave this hard bread.

I appreciate the text, not mental health, let alone the text reminded me just like people mumbling with the described symptoms.

Pavel 08.08.2013 13:11

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2706661)
I appreciate the text, not mental health, let alone the text reminded me just like people mumbling with the described symptoms.


A psychiatrist to go with this:

Ignorance is also a disease.
This was written by Alexander Benois.

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Zhevanina some indigestible , a stream of consciousness of the patient , delirium Chela in alcohol intoxication with changes in psychological and behavioral functions , I am afraid that is already under physiological .
The loss of a realistic assessment of the situation and the role of the self ... finish ...

Poor CS , I can assure you .... If you do not understand what I do with it . I've said before , I had to read more. Yes .. Got you ... Circle schizo . It is treated. It's called paranoia . Nothing terrible , just terrible at first and then goes away. <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Seriy 08.08.2013 13:20

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With your conclusions is difficult to disagree , especially that " we need to create the market works ." I do not understand the other , check , for example, artnau , look - a good artist . Written works of ~ 150, sold only ~ 5 . The prices exhibited a relatively high value of the average monthly salary in the country from 35 to 75 thousand ..
And the artist of their indexes on the exchange rate ( on the rise ), and no sales . It would be logical from my point of view, just to drop in price, than to see what works for years without cost of sales as a " horse at the trough ."
Although, who knows, maybe people with psycho sorry to part with them <! - ~ 1 ~ ->.


  The idea is interesting , but to say and do - different things. As soda secondary market their own products ? How many of them to do this, to sell , hundreds, thousands , tens of thousands? I've been involved in a British auction - there are artists , monthly selling publicly only through this auction more than 10 works , te hundreds and hundreds of papers have catapulted them into the market , and there is no secondary sales , do not leave people with purchased works!

Pavel 08.08.2013 13:29

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2706651)
And smart, pleasant and well-mannered man <! - ~ 1 ~ - ->

Yes, I am always surprised that living in Paris, she is no word on French art . Even in this article , a quote . About the ETM is much more interesting in the history of Impressionism. There was all the struggle and that the academics were ordering and buying Impressionist fans . It's all connected , and Drouot , and gallery owners , collectors , and benefit, and aristocrats . So where is the academics , all of these Bouguereau , Winterhalter, Bonn , etc. in comparison with which Briullov, so-so. Aivazovsky and Delacroix ...
Liana wrote this after our many run-ins with my submission . According to her , this is how it turned out bad, but it has existed for many years and have always will be. It is beneficial to so many . They are the French will not be considered with any EU . Drouot works and they now leave, like all the French. Their sales are a pleasure to watch .

artcol 08.08.2013 13:38

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2706831)
Yes, I am always surprised that living in Paris, it is a word of French art . Even in this article , a quote . About the ETM is much more interesting in the history of Impressionism. There was all the struggle and that the academics were ordering and buying Impressionist fans . It's all connected , and Drouot , and gallery owners , collectors , and benefit, and aristocrats . So where is the academics , all of these Bouguereau , Winterhalter, Bonn , etc. in comparison with which Briullov, so-so. Aivazovsky and Delacroix ...

Why , there was a discussion on this topic with LCR, there still Neoclassicist German artists featured as an example .

And in fact - it is very difficult to make predictions at a decent time ahead.
Just that situation struggle " against the academics Impressionists " mechanically makes no sense to carry in our time. Easel now all easy - competition with digital technology .

Pavel 08.08.2013 13:39

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2706561 "
Loss of a realistic assessment of the situation and the role of the self ...

Drink valerian . And do not parrot .

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competition with digital technology .

I do not understand what kind of digital technology?

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Why , there was a discussion on this topic with LCR, there still Neoclassicist German artists featured as an example .

And in fact - it is very difficult to make predictions at a decent time ahead.
Just that situation struggle " against the academics Impressionists " mechanically makes no sense to carry in our time. Easel now all easy - competition with digital technology .

As for the debate not remember, but it is not important because the Drouot is pure French and the Germans no they do not take orders . There patriotihm be healthy . I talked about the possibility of building such a system in our country, both by analogy to build ships and planes , but the best , taking into account our specific .

Кирилл Сызранский 08.08.2013 14:04

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As for the debate I do not remember , but it is not important because the Drouot is pure French and the Germans no they do not take orders . There patriotihm be healthy . I talked about the possibility of building such a system in our country, both by analogy to build ships and planes , but the best , taking into account our specific .


I wonder what kind of material do you use ? <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

artcol 08.08.2013 14:17

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2706861)
I do not understand what kind of digital technology ?

Imaging and printing. For example , 80 %(approximately , maybe more ) of American art dealers bought in China ( manufactured by a laptop ), and until the mid -1990s - bought in Europe and Russia .

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I talked about the possibility of building such a system

Auction sale of all and sundry?


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