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-   -   Mark Rothko (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=196)

Кирилл Сызранский 10.10.2012 00:37

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Сообщение от redbor; 2290621"
But a team of specialists - for some time can inspire " innovative art lovers ", " is a new word , it's a trend , this is a need to take to buy these things - profitable! See how expensive !"

What amateurish prattle ... :)

Listen , redbor, you zaregtstrirovanny on this forum in January 2009 , did all that time being here so you do not understand at least basic things ? Why then come to our Investing in art ?
Bredyatinu read your ignorant a shame .

redbor 10.10.2012 01:15

so do not read.
Why read, if not able to answer a simple question amateurish?
:)

Кирилл Сызранский 10.10.2012 01:35

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 2290641)
Why read, if not able to answer a simple question amateurish?

Do you think I'm here for the whole world to shame you'll be explaining the ABCs?

2 x 2=4, with a straight face?

Konstantin 10.10.2012 09:41

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Сообщение от redbor; 2290621"
Probably with Aivazovsky should not do it .

It is not necessary to untwist the cost of tens of millions of $?
Why not?
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Сообщение от redbor; 2290621"
arts it is visible and understandable to everyone . Any viewer can appreciate how well written the sea ,

Strange logic , it is evident and clear to everyone , for some reason it is not necessary to unwind , let sold for next to nothing (well, everything is relative of course)?

Can not answer because you do not have an answer . Repeat the pattern of " take and unwind" anyone anyhow to at least 20 000 0000 $ you obviously can not. Then why this conversation?
Rothko rest does not , this may answer why he had so much? Excites, makes to talk about himself , and then the pair of triple lines on the canvas.

Кирилл Сызранский 10.10.2012 13:52

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Сообщение от Konstantin; 2290821"
It is not necessary to untwist the cost of tens of millions of $?
Why then?

Because it is virtually impossible.
Aivazovsky the market very much, and millet is not: only in the current year to date was 28 paintings at auction and half of them were not sold, and leave the rest were from 20, it seems so long. and 100-120, rare things (not the marina, for example, or specific kinds of places - Italy, Turkey - "View of Constantinople and the Bosporus ", for example, leaving a record in a little over 5 million) went, of course, more expensive.
And all of the lessors Aivazovsky to Sothebys and Christies and a half years in advance, and Christies, for example, its only takes "Aivazov", this year only two of them and placed (one sold for 265,250 pounds).

But theoretically raise prices on up to 20 million could be spent a certain number of million for the purchase of his current work. At some point in this world of buying someone may vsrepenetsya and also connects to the buying - buying a second there, and then the third, will begin trading, grow, and results.
But it is, in theory any concerns at all " if my grandmother had a beard ".
 :D

Konstantin 10.10.2012 14:53

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2290931"
Aivazovsky the market very much, and no millet

Yes , I also know about the queue for Sothebys, on the other hand when you go to " antique shops " ( by the way will be opened soon 20-28 October 2012 ) and you see the same pattern from year to year, then the question of why - all in a voice howl of a large deficit in the market including the first names of the 19th century .

Elek 10.10.2012 20:53

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 2290401)
Here is the painting Rothko can already be called a masterpiece?

Or is it something missing?
:)


Not Rothko, but adnaznachna, a masterpiece.
:)

Игорь Гурьев 10.10.2012 21:05

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 765)
Rothko growing.
Just gets more people who understand it.

I'm not sure that much modernist notion of "understanding."

redbor 14.10.2012 00:34

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran; 2290661"
Do you think I'm here for the whole world to shame you'll be explaining the ABCs?
About 2 x 2 = 4, with a straight face?

Do not be ridiculous, Cyril If your post is written over three lines without errors - most likely it is, as already observed
 - Rewritten by you from any article or book, and given as an own "thought"!

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Сообщение от Konstantin; 2290821"
Rothko rest does not, this may answer why he had so much? Excites, makes to talk about himself, and then the pair of triple lines on the canvas.

Rothko makes you say about yourself? Or those to whom the talk and hype earn?
 I do not understand is elementary. Since then, all of a sudden, "paintings" Rothko surged to tens of millions and enriched the owners, who bought them for thousands?
  As correctly stated in the review: "Rothko's paintings became the attribute of high status of their owners'
Interestingly, one understands real Rothko painting?
Someone can tell which one it work better?
so to say the "tip of creativity." :)
 Here's a picture Rothko. Who can determine how well it is written?
It is a masterpiece or a work-through thing Rothko?

frol50 14.10.2012 01:00

I absolutely nenravitsya of Mark Rotko.I my comprehension of their high cost.


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