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Hollandup 26.06.2013 10:07

the best indicator (untwisted) is selling at auction and price fixing, so you should seek to get there.

NATA NOVA 26.06.2013 10:27

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Сообщение от Hollandup (Сообщение 2650631)
best indicator ( untwisted ) is selling at auction and price fixing , so you should strive to get there .

The best indicator ( untwisted ) is a steady, constant demand ( including the auction ) .
A sporadic auction sales may be " special " to just " price fixing ( which you mentioned ) ( which, however it is easy to calculate the later - for example, shaved , skull Hirst .) Method is quite popular , <! - ~ 1 ~ -> ( I kaaatsa ) .. Or am I wrong ? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Hollandup 26.06.2013 10:47

steady constant demand (auction) - This is the top of course, but in practice even for raskruchevaemogo and get-it can be difficult.

To do this, just as it is important to periodically present (exposed) in the country, where they decided to unwind, to join the Union's, in this country, etc.

Artoil-A 26.06.2013 10:57

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 2650641)
The best indicator ( untwisted ) is a steady, constant demand ( including the auction ) .

In addition to " price fixing " the auction mechanism is lowering the price for the resale of works .
Indeed , the demand - the best protection against price manipulation. And the demand for necessary
should be an analysis of the market and be able to re-adjustable mass production of art products .
 According to the Union of artists is also a problem . In the USSR, they were given certain privileges . But now time has changed and the civil law , there are already hundreds of unions of artists , and anyone can create and their union , and their academy. Had the money . Rather moderate .

Pavel 26.06.2013 14:24

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Сообщение от Hollandup (Сообщение 2650631)
best indicator (untwisted) is selling at auction and price fixing, so you should strive to get there.


But more importantly, that was my auction.
Everything rests in the absence of a national independent auction.

Кирилл Сызранский 26.06.2013 14:35

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Сообщение от Artoil-A (Сообщение 2650671)
, there are already hundreds of Artists' Union

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Konstantin 26.06.2013 15:34

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2650831)
is more important than that was my auction

This we know your swan song by heart, do not overdo it.

Hollandup 26.06.2013 15:35

a "local" unions need to join, especially if the artist is planning to work permanently in the country where he was going to spin.
Then it will be maintained at the local level.
Will buy more active.

Pavel 26.06.2013 17:26

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All bullshit.
When arbitrarily without showing pictures say-that Asama expensive, the most successful-Kabakov, it seems too brehnya.Ya seen it work, and you have seen, the price you know, confirm with you our eloquent.

Кирилл Сызранский 26.06.2013 17:45

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Сообщение от Pavel; 2651041 "
When groundless claim without showing pictures here Asama - expensive, most - successful Kabakov, this , too, seems nonsense .

Ilya Kabakov is by far the author of the most expensive work of living Russian artists:

Ilya Kabakov
 Beetle . 1982
Wood, enamel . 226,5 x 148,5
Estimate: 1,2-1,8 million pounds
Result: 2.9 million pounds
Phillips de Pury. 28.02.08 . Lot number 14

artcol 26.06.2013 21:45

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2651081)

Ilya Kabakov is by far the author of the most expensive work of living Russian artists.

Kabakov propose to assign to the distinguished title of "Citizen dear boss."

NATA NOVA 26.06.2013 22:42

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2651081)
beetle.
1982

 
It's probably on the design of 1982?

(Or the work of 1982?)

Кирилл Сызранский 26.06.2013 23:05

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA; 2651491 "
(or 1982 work ?)

The work was written in 1982.

Incidentally, the price of Kabakov :
 Roman Abramovich and Daria Zhukova bought the most important collection of works by Ilya Kabakov - 40 works (paintings and installations ), most of which were created before the artist's departure from the Soviet Union in 1987 and that more than 20 years collecting the famous American collector John Stewart for $ 60 million

NATA NOVA 27.06.2013 08:49

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2651531 "
The work is written in 1982 .

Back in the Soviet Union?
An interesting provenance . Someone bought it in the Soviet Union?

And more interesting to know about the great work Faibisovich ( where the soldiers are eating ice cream, dated 1974 ) She, too, was written in the Soviet Union , too, and someone bought it ( the Soviet Union ) ?

Кирилл Сызранский 27.06.2013 09:10

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 2651731)
Her someone bought in the Soviet Union?

I do not know when it was bought, and may even in the Soviet Union, but rather - is there a lot of Kabakov sold on arrival and the cheap, they then tried to redeem a long time ago have been taken out of the Soviet Union.

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2651771)
They have a dollar tree in the garden?

" dollar tree " - Zamioculcas, get it yourself, then you might get lucky with sales and money, and you, the poor fellow
, will cease to finally look into other people's pockets.
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