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Tana 10.02.2009 02:08

The first work of Malevich, 1918, all the others around 1932, all of the SRM, can not tell whether they are exhibited there, but here in the State Tretyakov Gallery, until 1936 there were paintings of the famous maestro in the exposition (Well, with 1918 g to 1936 g - uniquely Soviet times , 18 years of Soviet-era!).
into disfavor in the Soviet period fell by many artists, even the same Otroshchenko (Samvel will not lie), despite the fact that his works are in famous museums, too, got "a distribution" for the image of churches, interesting, and at Stozharov had such problems, because in He has many paintings with images of monasteries, churches?
Troubles was a time, today you could be famous one day and none of you will remember.

Кирилл Сызранский 10.02.2009 02:23

Tana, and even Solzhenitsyn until 1974 in the USSR lived. He was also a Soviet writer?

Tana 10.02.2009 02:51

Cyril Syzransky Here I am just against these labels "socialist realists," but because they love the "glue" to all who God forbid exhibited in the Soviet era
  In the end, they all studied in the Soviet school, then a Soviet university, well, not in the same alley, so that their education was Soviet, indeed, what Solzhenitsyn is not the Soviet writer than sugar is not a Soviet scientist (after all, the title he gave to the Soviet period ), I have long been proposing to abolish this tab, since obtained nonsense.

I think that when they write "a Soviet artist, writer, scientist, are only due to the fact that he worked at that time, such as" artist, poet of the Renaissance, when people talk about "Silver Century" for example, what do we mean? Yes only that people worked at this time and no means of their political, etc. views, why under
  "Soviet" necessarily imply political views?


Well, I was not dessidentom not sitting, was a Pioneer and Komsomol (something not like the Komsomol, but I'm not opposed to power) well, so what I do now and do not live, because I "Soviet"?

as in the Soviet period, many museums have been the work of pre-revolutionary Russian artists:
Levitan, Savrasov, Shishkin, Repin, Aivazovsky and so on, so what, they now also do not count, just because they were exposed during the Soviet era?

Cyril Syzransky oh, I feel we now asked in the garden ....
called "spin artists":)

dedulya37 10.02.2009 08:56

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Сообщение от Tana (Сообщение 218226)
oh, I feel we now asked in the garden ....
called "spin artists"

And since the civil war began, with the difference of opinion, but the Internet was not.

and at Stozharov had such problems, because he has a lot of paintings with images of monasteries, churches?

And Stozharov against the churches - the Soviet people. :)

And in other jobs where there is a church, but no people, all churches, as it were "cut off" from the top, but not because they were forbidden to write the crosses, but because they were not on the bulbs and therefore the artist was ashamed.

Самвел 10.02.2009 11:18

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Сообщение от SAH (Сообщение 218056)
all about. Touching you, dear Samvel.Nu may be a little bit of faith.

Is not it obvious that after the Soviet Union after its collapse, well, call at least one artist or a singer or a composer or the director's, or any figure of culture, the arts, which can no doubt put in series with the names of the Soviet past , there so many names that it is impossible to enumerate. Who truly was nothing will become everything, as it appears today. Yes, I say that in the USSR, were real judges, who show some of the artists, something would have been none, and produced catalogs, or hit the museums. Position LCR-seems biased, and the artists that you like, to show for some reason I did not see quotes of the words 100%talent, that you doubted it?

dedulya37 10.02.2009 11:28

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 218366)
Well, call at least one artist or a singer or composer, or the director's, or any figure of culture, art, which can no doubt put in a series with the names of the Soviet past,

So it is only 20 years old, they are still learning!

Veronic 10.02.2009 11:43

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 218366)
Can not you see that after the Soviet Union after its collapse, well, name at least one artist or a singer or composer, or the director's, or any figure of culture, art, which can no doubt put in a number of names of the Soviet past, there so many names that it is impossible to enumerate. Who truly was nothing will become everything, as it appears today. Yes, I say that in the USSR, were real judges, who show some of the artists, something would have been none, and produced catalogs, or hit the museums. Position LCR-seems biased, and the artists that you like, to show for some reason I did not see quotes of the words 100%talent, that you doubted it?

And what you want at the time of glamor and pop artists were writing? Or composers and directed by works? What time is and creativity. But generally it is now governed by a ball (рулит) cinema, photography and computer graphics.

Самвел 10.02.2009 12:08

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 218406)
And what you want at the time of glamor and pop artists were writing? Or composers and directed by works? What time is and creativity. But generally it is now governed by a ball (рулит) cinema, photography and computer graphics.
     

And who allowed this glamor, I can tell you that today's connoisseurs. About kinemotorgafe what you say, not those of the Jedi, and all rubbish, which collect multimillion-dollar fund?

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Сообщение от dedulya37 (Сообщение 218396)
So it is only 20 years old, they are still learning!

it does not mean anything, they should have these talents come out gradually, and if we want to have a glorious generation, we must think the future generation, which is now about to be born, the current generation of mostly corrupt and has no future. By the way I have long wanted to ask you, at the expense of those now half-churches, but here you have answered, how can there still any reason or is it all?

Veronic 10.02.2009 12:20

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 218436)
And who allowed this glamor, I can tell you that today's connoisseurs. About kinemotorgafe what you say, not those of the Jedi, and all rubbish, which collect multimillion-dollar fund?

 

And who made a revolution, war and so forth?
Samvel you maximalist, and it is good, but everything is subject to the times. Of course, in his work can make fun of glamor, but it is satire, or social art, but what glory it will be able to claim? Today is completely against what could protest?

SAH 10.02.2009 12:39

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Сообщение от dedulya37 (Сообщение 218276)
but not allowed to write because it crosses, but because they were not on the bulbs and therefore the artist was ashamed.

And I also feel ashamed that this happened.
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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 218366)
Yes, I say that in the USSR, were real judges,

Your position is very controversial. There are other views, not in favor of the Soviet "culture". Perhaps the best that germinated at the time it happened, as opposed to, against ideologiey.V against the dominant Soviet ideology.

Кирилл Сызранский 10.02.2009 12:59

Samvel, "And - God forbid you - do not read until dinner Soviet newspapers" (c)
And what was given to you glamor, where you find it?
Exclude it from your life. Do not look bad shirpotrebovskoe movie, do not listen to home-grown stage, not Scroll glossy magazines.
Do you own subject, though in it and no glamor not notice, as I walking down the street do not notice the policemen and pigeons.
No, they are, I know, but I did not notice ...

Veronic 10.02.2009 13:10

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 218496)
Scroll does not glossy magazines.

What you are talking about something terrible?

Кирилл Сызранский 10.02.2009 13:17

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 218436)
And who allowed this glamor

Just remember: "To hold and not let go!"

Veronic 10.02.2009 13:20

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 218496)
Do not look bad shirpotrebovskoe movie

By the way, about the film yesterday, looked very good film "Life After People" would highly recommend.
The main theme, if people disappear from the planet earth, that after they left, and that will tell us about our civilization through 10,000 years.

"Life After People" (English) - a popular science film, made for Channel History Channel, where scientists speculate about what will happen with the territory of the United States, animals and plants on it, if a person disappears, and that how long after the disappearance of humanity will exist by its monuments and artifacts. These film based on the results of the study areas, suddenly abandoned the people and the possible consequences of termination of maintenance of buildings and urban infrastructure.

The hypothesis of an abandoned world, illustrated with digital images showing the subsequent fate of such architectural masterpieces as the Empire State Building, Buckingham Palace, the Sears Tower, Space Needle, Golden Gate Bridge and the Eiffel Tower.

The film was first shown January 21, 2008. The audience was 5.4 million viewers: thus, "Life after people" became the most popular film in the history of History Channel. "
Source material wikipedia

Кирилл Сызранский 10.02.2009 13:27

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 218546)
The audience totaled 5.4 million viewers

Here it is, mass production. Consumer Goods.


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