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Pavel 03.07.2012 17:49

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2158101)
Just exhibition, museum projects sovriska - it is not hanging peyzazhikov at 4 walls in a rented zalchike .


I do not understand , does not understand Kirill Alekseev ? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
I give up something so that it is something as an employee of the latest trends and the State Tretyakov Gallery, the curator of many projects really can understand, but you probably know better. <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

And another quote ( emphasis mine ):

It seems there are already too. I am due to a quote about America .

Кирилл Сызранский 03.07.2012 18:01

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 2158141)
I think there are already too.

It has long been in New York?

How is it art?
Tell.

artcol 03.07.2012 18:19

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2158101)
And another quote ( emphasis mine ):

And who is the author of quote ? Alexeev , too ? A sort of a typical example of cargo cult : that was like "there" need to build a straw (ie large) airplanes (ie, art objects ), and then come running and bring in its beak at least 60 per kilobaksov . The thing of course in size. Well, in Putin's course, which is ... Well, it is clear that that <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2158101)
I do not understand , does not understand Kirill Alekseev ? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
I give up something so that it is something as an employee of the latest trends and the State Tretyakov Gallery, the curator of many projects really can understand, but you probably know better. <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

So Putin - President , not Mr. there ... This , ponimash , damn.
I am the way, before the crisis was also the President of the TFR "Art- Volga" , so ... <! - ~ 10 ->

Кирилл Сызранский 03.07.2012 18:26

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2158161)
Who is the author of quote?

Kirill Alekseev, art.

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A typical cargo cult.

A typical cargo cult - Russian Orthodoxy.

artcol 03.07.2012 18:30

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2158181)
Kirill Alekseev , art .

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A typical cargo cult - the Russian Orthodox Church .

But the money ran out - the fund was forced to close and dismiss staff , and projects were - hoo , plans - hulk <! - ~ 7 ~ -> So Alekseev - today he is the head - deputy - heads , and tomorrow - for the applicant office.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2158181)

A typical cargo cult - the Russian Orthodox Church.

Not an official orthodoxy - the heresy of heresy.

Кирилл Сызранский 03.07.2012 18:55

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2158201)
, but ran out of money - the fund was forced to close and dismiss staff, and projects were - hoo, plans - hulk

What is the fund?


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So Alekseev - today he is the head-deputy-heads, and tomorrow - the applicant for the post.

And this is what has to his text, "Contemporary Art in Russia"?

artcol 03.07.2012 19:01

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2158221)
And this is what has to his text , " Contemporary Art in Russia "?

Cyril, you are at it ask
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I give up something so that it is something as an employee of the latest trends TG and the curator of many projects really can understand, but you probably know better.
You first referred to his office .

Кирилл Сызранский 03.07.2012 19:16

AK Alekseev , I think, is more concerned with is:

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China last year built two hundred museums of modern art. They make them based on local history museums, which are in each area. We have also just a museum, and he did not build , but only stated intentions. We are now in a very sad situation. That's the difference between us and them .
artcol, which is
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I give up something so that it is something as an employee of the latest trends and the State Tretyakov Gallery, the curator of many projects really can understand, but you probably know better.
I wrote , since you seem to represent the poor who is the author of the text under discussion .
That department TG , by the way , for a long time headed (and created it ), Andrei Erofeev . Now he will not " head - deputy - heads ", but Andrey Erofeev stayed.


artcol, a strange conversation: You keep trying to delete all the gloating , resembling obgovnit , fine staple .
Themselves in this way want to raise ?

I'm in such a way to continue the conversation I will not.

Pavel 03.07.2012 19:46

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2158151)
has long been in New York?

How is it art?
Tell.


You do not need to be in NY.
As usual, the new name is not present, so the little things.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2158241)
K. Alekseeva , I think, is more concerned with is:



artcol, and that I wrote , since you seem to represent the poor who is the author of the text under discussion .
That department TG , by the way , for a long time headed (and created it ), Andrei Erofeev . Now he will not " head - deputy - heads ", but Andrey Erofeev stayed.


artcol, a strange conversation: You keep trying to delete all the gloating , passing surreptitiously obgovnit , fine staple .
Themselves in this way want to raise ?

I'm with you in this way will not continue the conversation .

In my opinion , these friends from TG themselves dropped . Position does not mean quality. We recall the minister liked members on the bridge , well, on the fences , too, probably. Position is an officer , and official persons dependent and without their own opinions. In Morozova was the authority , and it does not .
China is far and suggest that they are there to expose their business, but they are buying up Soviet , academic , and very active.

Кирилл Сызранский 03.07.2012 20:12

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is the official title , and official persons dependent and without their own opinions.

Senior scientific officer - a position of bureaucratic ?

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I was Morozov's credibility , but it does not .

We have the authority and Alekseev among contemporary artists, and colleagues , you just , as always, not in the subject . And who is the Morozov ?
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China is far and suggest that they are there to expose their business, but they are buying up Soviet , academic , and very active.

 Soviet kolektsionery buy , we just buy more and there is nothing .

artcol 03.07.2012 21:29

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2158241)
artcol, and that I wrote , since you seem to represent the poor who is the author of the text under discussion .

About Alekseeva I first heard about 3 years ago , as soon as the AI ​​'s blog Learn broadcast began . He announced a type of something there 'll soon find out , rocking. Then there is the nagging ...

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2158241)
Themselves in this way want to raise ?

No, Cyril , I am a man of action , I'm not interested in these show-off .

Pavel 03.07.2012 23:57

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2158301)
How to get acquainted with the art , if not to attend the exhibition? From the photographs in art magazines ? You are what American magazines on the art of viewing ?
Senior scientific officer - a position of bureaucratic ?


We have the authority and Alekseev among contemporary artists, and colleagues , you just , as always, not in the subject . And who is the Morozov ?

 The Soviet " buy " kolektsionery , we simply have more and " buy " there is nothing .

That's what I know. Just look and selling magazines and everything will fall into place. Journals Art Institute America , etc. can be found in the foreigner .
Contemporary artists are so few and so far they are from people that this is not serious , but do not know Morozov , a major critic and head . new TG strange.

Кирилл Сызранский 10.08.2012 18:58

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I went to the people and did not return One creative from Moscow went to revive the Russian village ...

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Today, August 10, 2012 , Ilya Farber announced the verdict. 8 ( VOSEM! ! ! ) Years in prison and 3.2 million rubles fine. This is unreal mess , drunk cops , murderers , and corrupt bureaucrat given three years probation.
Ahead of the cassation court , where it will be necessary to prove the innocence of a person , and the injustice of the sentence. Need money for lawyers. At Petit [ eldest son of the convicted person ] two brothers - 4.5 and 1.5 years , my mother and grandmother .

............ .....

NATA NOVA 10.08.2012 21:56

Kak read what is happening in Russia (and Ukraine), all these passions for art rat race seem to be .., miserable and worthless ....


How deeply and immensely sad ...

Кирилл Сызранский 04.12.2012 15:16

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Today, August 10, 2012, Ilya Farber announced the verdict. 8 (VOSEM!!!) Years in prison, and 3.2 million rubles fine.
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The day after the Supreme Court reversed the verdict Tver Regional Court in the case of rural teachers from the village Moshenki Ilya Farber, a meeting of the Bureau of the Russian Jewish Congress (RJC) about this. We have questions that go beyond the particular case, and even the fate of a particular person, although it is not indifferent to us.

The Supreme Court has demanded a retrial, not because questioned the guilt of the defendant. For which there are legal reasons why no one, including the Sun, have no right to cancel the jury's verdict. High Court decision is justified by formal reasons - with the way the hearing. It identified a number of problems: the fact that the jury did not even retired to discuss the verdict in a separate room, to the point that the judge was not wearing a robe.

However, among these there are some details not only alarming, but explains a lot.

For example, the phrase prosecutor at the trial in Tver: "Can a man named Farber free to help the country?".

How to classify it? And how to deal with the fact that the judge Vladimir Andreev she did not object? Especially against the background that the arguments were accepted by the judge prosecutor, and "a man called Farber" he was interrupted, not given even to utter the last word, and then generally removed from the courtroom, and for not returning a verdict?

completely here.


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