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khmelev 08.02.2014 22:06

I told people very close to this story is that it really wanted to close . There is obvious structure - knew that the picture was in Grabar, lied about the provenance , Basner not write any examination and asked to conceal their involvement . And in return, thrust himself innocent Solonovich . Traded , ie acted as hosts.
Got the money and divided them .
All this, if we were talking about fake vodka truck or counterfeit consumer goods, already would be enough for the eyes and the ears . Would have received probation and a civil lawsuit .
But there are two circumstances that dragged this story in the Investigative Committee and painted in mysterious tone.
The first - that fake - clone museum thing .
The second - a figure Aronson . It's a difficult character .

Кирилл Сызранский 08.02.2014 23:06

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The first - that fake - clone museum thing.

Yes, it is not very beautiful whole story: E. Basner worked as GDI, the same in the original Ford and Grigorieva.

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The second - a figure Aronson.
It's a difficult character.

What kind of puppeteer something so mysterious?

Eriksson 09.02.2014 02:52

" To all been understood - the arrest Basner - it Magnitsky of art. She was arrested not for the fact that de 5 years ago verbally said Vasilyev , if some pattern similar to the present . Her being detained because of his invention , it ran across the road and fraudsters criminals "- wrote in his Slobodinsky Facebook.

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Lawyer Elena Basner Larissa Mal'kova previously told " Rosbaltu " that , in her opinion , it was initiated only after the intervention of the head of the UK Alexander Bastrykin .


http://www.newsru.com/cinema/05feb2014/basnermetod.html

as expected ! <! - ~ 6 ~ ->

khmelev 09.02.2014 09:09

And unless Bastrikin has no relation to law enforcement agencies ? Is a citizen has no right to access it ?
Any scammer can then build their " moral " position that the victim goes to the police <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
Vasiliev asked the SC p.ch. in his case clearly discernible corruption, organized crime , the relationship with institutions such as belt and a lot more interesting things.
  Do you think it appropriate that the Estonian criminals peddling falshaki skillfully made ​​from the originals stored in the vaults of the belt ? And they do it with the direct participation of " the world's experts ."

Eriksson 09.02.2014 09:21

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Vasiliev asked the SC p.ch. in his case clearly discernible corruption, organized crime , the relationship with institutions such as belt and a lot more interesting things .

That's what I had in mind a few days ago, when expressed concern that a purely criminal case will be presented nepremennno "political" , and Elena Basner acquire toga martyr and victim " murderous regime ." So , ready :
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arrest Basner - it Magnitsky from art


Маруся 09.02.2014 09:51

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I told people very close to this story is that it really wanted to close . There is obvious structure -

But there are two circumstances that dragged this story in the Investigative Committee and painted in mysterious tone.
The first - that fake - clone museum thing .
The second - a figure Aronson . It's a difficult character .


And from everything looks different .
If so like , what lingered for so many years ? And why Vasiliev had to sue the inaction of law enforcement?
Mysterious circumstances also were long known as, however, and composition. Only it did not stop to pause and shut case . So it was necessary for someone
And the investigative committee case came only through perseverance Vasilyeva and obviously those who support it .

khmelev 09.02.2014 09:53

I think it's a terrible stupidity on the part of the "democratic public" p.ch. she only spur investigators to find out more precisely the corrupted economic moments.
Every person belongs to a certain range , where you can speak frankly , can ask the staff departments Russian London auction , as they relate to securities Basner .
I remember in Paris Gallery "Opera" was a bit of a scandal with its attribution of many works .
  And for some reason, no one connects quite understandable things . The matter dragged on Vasilyeva 4 years without any hope of a successful outcome , except those premises itself Vasilyeva in a madhouse. And suddenly all budge ...
Look what happened . And there was excitement investigations in Germany, Switzerland , Israel, Finland Minister for the sale and production of fake Russian avant-garde associated with Edik Natanovym . Edward Nathan organizes his first exhibition in Yaroslavl bullshit stirring fakes with these things , it seems in the year 2003 . Somewhere at the same Petrov , and behind her Sarabyanov write angry letters about the intrusion of organized crime in the museum world by such exposures. And odnovrekmenno Basner dismissed - de facto fired - from belt .
  If it turns out - and I still do not reach the hands find this mysterious Yaroslavl catalog of the first exhibition Natanova - that there is a preface written Basner ( It is, incidentally , a native of Yaroslavl and has some connection with this museum ) is a solitaire finally folded and how sung in the famous song " Girl ripe"

Eriksson 09.02.2014 10:51

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It is, incidentally , a native of Yaroslavl

This dad - Basner was born in Yaroslavl. Lena was born in St. Petersburg, where her father lived as much in 1944 .

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What happened initiating investigations in Germany, Switzerland , Israel, Finland Minister for the sale and production of fake Russian avant-garde associated with Edik Natanovym .

It is curious that Natanovu wrote fake artist from St. Petersburg :

http://mirnov.ru/rubriki-novostey/ob...hivyj-avangard

Тихая Сапа 09.02.2014 11:18

Passage "grandpa chairman of the Samarkand State Farm - an avid collector of Russian avant-garde" blew away a tear.

mihailovoh 09.02.2014 11:38

In the story Maksimovskaya Inter still flashed with the director of the Tretyakov examination of the figures , more than 4,000 items ( and how much and did not take on the input? ) . 800.ponyatno confirmed . The rest of 3200 is not part of the walk and unichtozheny.a already examinations .
 According to Vasilyev ponyatno.chto the particular case (of which not a few ) used to fight with anyone to.no not with the system of selling fakes . Basner and E only a cog in the system.
 I grasped davno.chto without provenance walking work and its publications ( voyne.dolgom finding tales of violence and 99.9 percent td.na and have tales ) . Better not look at the work and expertise.


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