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Fed 23.10.2010 20:20

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Seriy, how much would you evaluate this work, relatively Artnau?

1.67h67

2.A4

artcol 23.10.2010 20:23

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 1341301)
Seriy, how much would you evaluate this work, relatively Artnau?

1.67h67

2.A4

And that is:

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Сообщение от Fed (Сообщение 1341301)
relative Artnau?

The new stock market index?
:D

Seriy 23.10.2010 21:16

artcol, it is very good and interesting question, why not turn good work ....



Fed, you give me all the time rekbusy slips :-)
A second job can not estimate, it is not painting. Can this complex program issues.
The first work is weak, unprofessional. The whole bunch is uniformly illuminated, the heads of flowers to each other is not obscure, such a life does not happen, then it was written out of my head. With shadows still trouble, pot sticks out unnaturally.
Coloring a pleasant, beautiful present. Decent size. Hopefully, oil on canvas.
Relatively Artnau, IMHO, it would cost 16 to 25 thousand rubles.
 And, again sold at Sotheby's for 40 thousand dollars?

Peter 23.10.2010 21:37

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 1341401)

The first work is weak, unprofessional


I think that this is a typical example of a "commercial" art, fit on the wall above the commode. (Not for everyone) I do not know who did it, but whoever did is a fact. (I would have hung over the dresser still life say Korovin. <
! - ~ 1 ~ ->)

Fed 23.10.2010 21:57

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Сообщение от Seriy; 1341401"
Fed, you give me all the time rekbusy slips :-)
Relatively Artnau, IMHO, it would cost 16 to 25 thousand rubles.
And, again sold at Sotheby's for 40 thousand dollars?

Interested in your opinion.
Price 100 euros (4254r.). Ie 4 times lower than the minimum. evaluation. This gap of markets in one country for trafficking in dangerous.
That's me all about the prospects of present-day. art. In muddy water you can fish to catch, but you can not. But this problem sellers. But the problems of producers, such dumping. At Artnau of anyone from 400 euros, as hello. I go to the store and there "held" lie of 200. Two parallel worlds.

Do not worry. Dumping huge, chaotic chaotic market in a poor country. And you're trying to understand their role in it (see the formation of harmful calm).
My opinion (I even consulted) - you have a love for the avant-garde, but with a predilection for foreign. In the West, it's interesting, but expensive to send, then they are perceived as a Western, if not treated.
Can you switch to a more Russianness-conceptualism, less "fine", ie does not draw his picture, and do.
 Kill 2 birds with one stone-Western buyers will be interested-"über, russischer avangardist!" and local native poveet + market glowing on the willingness of Russian avant-garde.
   Try to experience at least one or consider carefully "a la" and do it. A couple of better-for authenticity.

K-Maler 23.10.2010 23:19

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1341261)
I am now interested in another question: where all the painting is good, this 10%? Where it fails? Why not turn a good painting? Where to now personally, I sell it?! More than one work is not surfaced ...

  
In fact, an interesting question.
We are all to familiar or even somehow seeing good pictures. From conversations artists need to figure out this question.
Firstly, many people can not exhibit. Because of the price or biased selection of most exhibits.
Secondly, the buyers a good painting - the real art lovers and savvy in it, they do not buy for resale. Over the chest or over the couch, but these nice pictures keep them hanging, they bought them for that. Will sell their heirs.
And the artists themselves, in most cases, can not sell ...
Must sell a good dealer.

DSF 24.10.2010 01:17

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 1341511)
Secondly, the buyers a good painting - the real art lovers and savvy in it, they do not buy for resale. Over the chest or over the couch, but these nice pictures keep them hanging, they bought them for that. Will sell their heirs.

In my opinion, this is the main reason for the lack of turnover. Since I myself sell their works, I can track what happens to them. During all the years that I work, I know only one resale of my paintings. I sold it in 2005, in the same year she was resold to the owner twice the price. The new owner gave the painting, say, the owner of the gallery "Victory" (Samara). In this picture gallery stayed until 2008, there has got a good frame and a thick layer of dust. I bought it from there through nominees at a price slightly cheaper than that sold itself. Now she has a new owner. Here is such a "revolution". The rest of my paintings hanging in their places and, as far as I know, nobody to sell them is not going to.
I would not mind that my work got to the secondary artrynok, but have no idea how to do it.

artcol 24.10.2010 02:02

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In my opinion, this is the main reason for the lack of turnover. Since I myself sell their works, I can track what happens to them. During all the years that I work, I know only one resale of my paintings. I sold it in 2005, in the same year she was resold to the owner twice the price. The new owner gave the painting, say, the owner of the gallery "Victory" (Samara). In this picture gallery stayed until 2008, there has got a good frame and a thick layer of dust. I bought it from there through nominees at a price slightly cheaper than that sold itself. Now she has a new owner. Here is such a "revolution". The rest of my paintings hanging in their places and, as far as I know, nobody to sell them is not going to.
I would not mind that my work got to the secondary artrynok, but have no idea how to do it.

Generally, painting in Russia is interested in a negligible percentage of the population. Just tends to zero. And collectors have culled all, there is no place :D

iside 24.10.2010 09:05

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1341641)
Actually, the painting in Russia is interested in a negligible percentage of the population. Just tends to zero.

I do not know how about negligible, may be so. Just most of life is that it is not up to painting or to the public. Not for little money, not for long, nor as a gift.
And another part of the population does not need to buy paintings, and the place is on the wall, and have money and need not. Ie kind of like the idea of having a nice picture of the apartment like it, but no steps for this are not taken.
Because you have to know where and how to buy, any benchmarks should be, go there on such a day there will be an exhibition - it is not. Ie it is, but again, for people who are already in the field of art. I recall that Constantine was surprised to find somewhere he talked with the artists - they are even about this site is not heard, but 90%of the population has heard about artnau, to say nothing about the picture that only a simple scare Novice collectors their prices. :confused:

artcol 24.10.2010 11:12

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 1341741)
I do not know how about negligible, may be so. Just most of life is that it is not up to painting or to the public. Not for little money, not for long, nor as a gift.
And another part of the population does not need to buy paintings, and the place is on the wall, and have money and need not. Ie kind of like the idea of having a nice picture of the apartment like it, but no steps for this are not taken.
Because you have to know where and how to buy, any benchmarks should be, go there on such a day there will be an exhibition - it is not. Ie it is, but again, for people who are already in the field of art. I recall that Constantine was surprised to find somewhere he talked with the artists - they are even about this site is not heard, but 90%of the population has heard about artnau, to say nothing about the picture that only a simple scare Novice collectors their prices. :confused:

Crisis, the prices here specifically to do with it :(


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