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artcol 13.07.2010 08:58

What controversy?

киса 13.07.2010 09:00

SergeiSK Yes, yes ... I reproach myself for nezderzhannost. I would be such topics do not open. Out of a sense of self-preservation. After all, in fact, Rosen and "kindled." Silly it. And somehow I feel sorry for yourself and everyone else fighting. Silly)

artcol, all this is so. And I and many others understood from the outset that in this and poreshat (I think that even many of my opponents). But it's there. It was decided. And here? It will be difficult to light and shade come back ...

artcol 13.07.2010 09:18

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Сообщение от pussycat (Сообщение 1191092)
SergeiSK Yes, yes ... I reproach myself for nezderzhannost. I would be such topics do not open. Out of a sense of self-preservation. After all, in fact, Rosen and "kindled." Silly it. And somehow I feel sorry for yourself and everyone else fighting. Silly)

Definitely so.

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Сообщение от pussycat (Сообщение 1191092)
artcol, all this is so. And I and many others understood from the outset that in this and poreshat (I think that even many of my opponents). But it's there. It was decided. And here? It will be difficult to light and shade back ...

Precedent is important. All are equal. And Young, and human rights activists, and the Orthodox community, and the Russian nationalists-fascists. In addition to the presidential administration, eat-but :D

Кирилл Сызранский 13.07.2010 10:04

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1191072)
What's the dispute? There is a legal state of, a court, there is an article, there is the plaintiff (s) and defendant (s), there is a sentence. Total a - 350 TR Pay grandmother - and do what you want. Humane? - Yes. In the spirit of the time - Yes. And the hunt with the hounds? - Yes.
All OK, intermission, the audience and actors, please do not diverge :D

Well, there are other opinions. :D
For example, here Arthemy Trinity:
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Well, I, in principle, non-religious people, so some of my feelings that are in the spiritual plane, this story does not affect in any way. That is, I'm not an atheist, at the same time ... so I'm baptized ... in general, this is what is called in the international use «not a religious person», that is, those problems have little touch. Nevertheless, I believe that this story is absolutely shameful. History, shameful, especially for our country. There is a great Russian proverb: tell the fool to pray to God, well and know that he will break his forehead. In this case, warn't forehead, I think, very much. Winners in this story is not. Even if 350 thousand rubles broke off to some "People's Council" and the money they bought what some candles, and then, naturally, these people remain dissatisfied, because the verdict is soft, Erofeev with Samodurov remain unhappy because they are still found guilty . And the main victims in this story, I believe, on the one hand, the image of our country, because the process is, of course, from the series "Monkey Process" in America in the 50 years against Charles Darwin.

luka77 13.07.2010 10:08

Lawyers for the organizers of the "Forbidden Art" appealed against sentence
Lawyers for the organizers of the exhibition "Forbidden Art - 2006", found guilty of inciting religious hatred, appealed the decision Tagansky court of Moscow. This is the Russian news agency the legal and judicial information (RAPS) the lawyer said Samodurova Ksenia Kostromina.

On the eve of a court sentenced Yuri Samodurov and Andrei Erofeev to fines of $ 150, and 200 thousand rubles. Once a complaint verdict could not enter into force. According Kostromina, the court filed a brief complaint. Full version of the document will be forwarded for consideration after the court will award Samodurov and Erofeev copies of court records.

According to the investigation, exhibition "Forbidden Art", held in 2007, former director of the Sakharov Centre Yuri Samodurov and art critic Andrei Erofeev, hurting the feelings of all Orthodox believers of people. In this case the prosecution stressed that the insult was applied even to those believers who have not seen the exhibition.

http://lenta.ru/news/2010/07/13/erofeev/

Евгений 13.07.2010 10:14

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1191172)
Regarding the country's image is clear - it is shameful. That is, some kind of medieval, obscurantism, these words are all well known, do not even want to use. But I believe that even our ROC also found hostage now these same fools, who were forced to pray. That is, the ROC has a very nice educated people who correctly understand the role of the church and the fact that it generally needs to be done to truly become a positive force in society in the country and earn some credibility.

Good word, all right .. Image ROC because reactionaries (and their sympathizers) suffered significantly.

Кирилл Сызранский 13.07.2010 10:22

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Сообщение от SergeiSK (Сообщение 1191062)
Let us now because of the Russian Orthodox Church:

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Posted by Eugene
Without the quotes, just the Black Hundreds ...
may indicate a person familiar with the Orthodox Church only at prices at the icons.

Eugene "Black Hundreds" of people named the same attitude with a ROC, as I have the opera. Yes, I uslushayu, rife even sometimes, I know the libretto, the composer, performers, but I'm in the hall, but not on stage, as well as the types, not on the pulpit, but merely parishioners. Yes, wild, hats, even in estates are not removed, just as Muslims or Jews, but that really do, they are orthodox ... :D

And by the way, about "the price of icons. A very large proportion of the icons on the market from the parish priests. I do not blame, they should also somewhere to do with those icons, they bring parishioners. I'm just stating.

Added after 10 minutes
Irina Yassin: The Soviet court

I went to a rally in defense Samodurov and Erofeev ...
All past, a sentence nasty, accusatory, but they are at liberty.

Nevertheless.
Exhibition unpleasant. Pictures really offend religious feelings. I'm a very non-religious, but I would be uncomfortable in front of these paintings with their faithful friends.
But I would go with them did not go ...

A simple method gosrazborki such that instinctively and immediately taking the side of those who started Ridicule.

The public in general, tend to organize debates and discussions.
Remember how pounced on merzotnogo man in a sweater with the pellets, when he dared vyaknut about euthanasia for sick babies? That would be attacked because of disputes and condemnations on Samodurova with Yerofeyev. And even better at Mamysheva Monroe.

And then once the party committee ...

http://www.echo.msk.ru/blog/yasina/695078-echo/

luka77 13.07.2010 10:40


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