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Pavel 04.11.2009 16:48

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Сообщение от AlexanderG (Сообщение 678864)
Zabyl dobavit ', esli u vas paru chelovek na zarplate, to eto eschio okolo $ 100,000 v god.

why we do not know anything about Avsraliyskih artists, and the French-heart.

Pavel 04.11.2009 17:17

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 678834)
Paul, you again for your ... Have read somewhere in the popular literature (French, before last century, in the modern pervode) and dream of that "someone buys and waiting ..." You represent everything from the perspective of the artist, making it easier ... The gallery houses works 150-200. And you think that all this is purchased "by amateurs, collectors and gallery owners with the aim quick gains ..
Your arguments do not relate to any side of the picture ...

All your 150-200 works have no value, ie these artists are not certain price rating. Their value is determined by you, so you never sell them dearly. Sell them, too impossible, so they are buying to close the hole in the wall.
Besides, when such work gallerist starts to dictate to the artist and the whole painting can turn into a commercial.

Buscador 04.11.2009 18:44

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 679014)
The mechanism is very simple-traders sit in the hall of the galleries

I would like to remind you that the gallery sold gartiny, rather than buy them. Now I can not say exactly what kind of literature you have read (a hundred years ago), but it has no value (for business). You absolutely have no idea about the current state of affairs that take place at the auctions. You have already once wrote that your theory (newspaper-book) calculations can introduce zabluzhdeie beginning artists ...

Buscador 04.11.2009 18:50

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 679134)
these artists are not certain price rating. Their value is determined by you,

Another full chusch. The price of paintings everywhere and always dictates the market (with the exception of individuals who are temporarily sheltered "fat" uncle:)).
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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 679134)
Also in such work gallerist starts to dictate to the artist

A good artist no one can dictate. The market can only tell ... But the solution there is always the artist.

Buscador 04.11.2009 18:52

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 679084)
We know nothing about Avsraliyskih artists, and the French-heart.

We see that and of French - nothing ...

04.11.2009 19:07

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Сообщение от Semen Semenovich (Сообщение 678724)
This notion, in etohu total difitsita, replacing the notion of - business.

Speculation differs from the investment amount of invested funds and short-term in revenue. And investors and speculators are predprinimatelyami.Tolko investor receives income in the long run and speculator
  interested in short-term profits because "from what time to live (to invest, take Th exhibition ... eat, feed the family ...) and maintain the gallery." But it is yesterday. In the course of new technologies ....
A pity that in the heat of debate about profits completely forget about the collectors, for whom the property and labor, artists and galleries

Pavel 04.11.2009 19:16

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 679204)
Speculation differs from the investment amount of invested funds and short-term in revenue. And investors and speculators are predprinimatelyami.Tolko investor receives income in the long run and speculator
  interested in short-term profits because "from what time to live (to invest, take Th exhibition ... eat, feed the family ...) and maintain the gallery." But it is yesterday. In the course of new technologies ....
The only pity is that in the heat of debate about profits completely forget about the collectors, for whom the property and labor, artists and galleries

In the first place for collectors, it is important that the collection chtoto all about. Usually this is expressed in the price and the price is determined during the sale and again the question where?

Кирилл Сызранский 04.11.2009 19:18

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 679204)
The only pity is that in the heat of debate about profits completely forget about the collectors, for whom the property and labor, artists and galleries

  Not just for collectors. Buy-and-lot in the interiors square., Houses, but collectors are not.

Buscador 04.11.2009 19:21

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 679204)
completely forget about the collectors, for whom the property and labor, artists and galleries

This is a controversial opinion ... Painters work for the sake of art and for himself, galereisty - for the sake of profit for themselves and art (some, sometimes). Collectors - clients Gallery, along with the bankers, athletes, restaurateurs and other people with the means and interest in painting ...

Кирилл Сызранский 04.11.2009 19:22

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 679204)
But it is yesterday. In the course of new technologies ....

About yesterday, clearly.
And what kind of new technology?
New technologies of enrichment, the arts? Interesting. Educate the same. : D


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