Unfortunately, many think that the artist is a kind of ethereal being fed on soft food, and his money well, just do not need them. And he does not even matter that his paintings do not see the audience, he would be happy just from the act of creativity, without demanding anything in return but only hoping that his work will get some time in the museum.

It must be, oh, it is necessary ... :)

There is nothing strange, it's just mnenie.chto no need to adjust for those in power do not have to wear this mantle, which is actually a screen, do not take the title, and gifts from today's figures, the more of these titles can be bought for next to money, especially for this one is not going to shoot him, I have a language does not turn the same thing to say about those artists who received the Lenin or Stalin Prize, because it was like death. Why I say that this promotion Reboot must go to him sideways.

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Do you really think that the artist need some materials, it is necessary craftsmen. I think only I know who the artist, because I read every chusch on the forum, such as need to eat, or commercial success. My spit has to be a work of art, because I am an artist, "someone said of the great artists who nepomnyu. What kind of commercial success could be during the Second World War, what kind of materials, but there were artists who wrote under the bombs, instead of using clay dyes, etc., as photographers were shooting, the fact that they could not on another because they are artists.

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I do not think that this is an innate sense, rather I bought it in not very long life with people. And what you want, something I would say such things as tenderness, love, and all the sentimentalism, no, that's enough, I walked away from those words 10 years ago. And вобще world infected with sentimentality, but this is the first manifestation of cruelty, it is not my words, I Jung.

In the original a little bit wrong.
Kurt Schwitters: "Everything an artist spits out, is art"

And he said to confirm the words of Marcel Duchamp, that a simple object becomes a work of art because the artist said so

Of course, everyone is free to love and collect what he likes, and spitting a piece of shit for some, the picture for others.
Gina already out of the bottle, return it, unfortunately, do not shove.

Yes, Samvel, I really think that the artist wanted "any material". And I really think that hunger is not the father of masterpieces.
And most importantly, you have not noticed my first premise: if the artist is not about to tell (show his work) people, then he, as a social phenomenon, not physically take place. But this is one of the main objectives of the promo.
I believe you because it is pretty fervor not have time to consider other people's arguments.

Of course, you are quite right, Joseph - artists need to eat, like all other people, is a medical fact.
The artist needs and materials. And besides, the artist needed the exhibition - just to see their things in a "foreign" space. This allows him to take a fresh look at them.
For such a simple thing: the workshops with the artists are usually not great (by the way, and for the studio, even the most homely, you have to pay), the same work is quite different looks in a small space and a large exhibition hall.

If I understand correctly, the main idea of Samvel - is that true artist paints for himself, and this is also perfectly true, but one thing to another (ie, work for themselves, from the inner need - and want to put their belongings, to seek to live in their work) does not.

By the same logic your Otroshchenko Sergei Borisovich was also a craftsman? As far as can be seen - the picture he is not clay or coal but still paints painted on canvas and cardboard boxes, and not spitting and admiring the life and despicable for you to love and sentimentality - are not alien to him.

I always thought that every person has prizvanie.Dumayu that a true artist draws and paints a picture primarily because he can not do it again. It's like breathing. If an artist makes a painting just for the sake of money, it is quite another. But to receive awards for their work, in the form of money and other goods] to the rank and gifts [/do not see anything wrong with that. By the way here and thanks to you we all learned about the artist Otroshchenko, this name came into us and zakrepilos.Blagodarya your love for this artist, we all saw that it was cool zhivopisets.To is your love for him and reverent attitude communicated itself to us, for me. If you did not show his work (not popularized), we could not have known about it ( his name would be one of many meaningless names) So what's wrong? "Creativity of the artist literally needs of such people (Marshania) like you. And the more professional they will work with really good artists, the better for all.

SAH, well said.

   Yes, someone is against the fact that-be artist to show or exhibit, on the contrary, I only, but not today. Today, on the contrary it must hide. Then what's the difference between a true artist and craftsmen who replicate their albums, which the Central House of Artists Exhibition, I just know who's there every year is exhibited, and sold soy work on a very good price, well, just shtampovschikki who have never painted from nature. What do you want that-be, along with those blockhead were artists with a capital letter? I am opposed to moving only today.

Samvel,
And what are you afraid of? What the public does not distinguish a true artist from craftsman in your understanding?
Difference, and fast distinctions.
In 1999, I organized the exhibition at the Kuznetsk Stozharov, 20.
Advertising was not great, but posters, and not a place for exhibitions, rather particularized. So?
The news quickly spread through the artistic circles. Even those who were not heard at the opening of the exhibition.
After a couple of days I was on his cell (!) Found the phone, LE Kerbel, (and I am his grandson fit) and was grateful for the exhibition of this artist. He actually said: Thank you, Sasha, for a good show, and then among the rest of th ... and to see nothing!
And I'm proud of this praise, though it belongs to the artist.
This artist is always higher blockheads.

Samvel,
Your idea - the need to separate the grain from the chaff - is understandable, albeit controversial. I prefer dedulin approach: take the public able to make this choice themselves.
I have another totally disagree. If today's "hidden" talent, until tomorrow, he could not endure. SAH cool remarked: You're a wonderful Otroshchenko not hiding, but rather actively propagandiruete. And it is doing the right thing, otherwise we would not have had the pleasure of his paintings.
So, I think you have a special little epatiruete some remarks, evoking a useful and healthy debate.:)

  You know how I feel about Stozharov, and to you personally, so only a few observations. I often byvl at the salon in the CHA, and there in the past 3 -4 salon, wherever you be moved to ask, but if you have a Stozharov, and asked people simply are far from art, just to sell this predshevstvovalo promotion, and it made the gallery auction houses, vobschem were doing, and professionals and neprofesionaly is these neprofesionaly I think and do much harm, and that is certainly the price of this artist's creeping up, I think they will go down, is the result of a clumsy promotion, in any case, I do see quite perhaps I am wrong. As for the public, it will never tell a real, from the unreal. This art is done far away from the public.

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No one, I do not advocate, I simply represent an artist on a single forum, which I think is very interesting and amusing. reveal a little secret I'll draw and sometimes do not sell very poorly, but I never considered myself an artist, this is my scribble sold more than Otroshchenko, as you say the audience. The audience always admired erundoy.i is its purpose, if the audience liked the work of an artist whom you untwist, it is your personal failure.

Explain the quote.
You mean the price of paintings Stozharov? So I get it?