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And probably will not work for examination Basner gave (well, not on the status of it , and a conflict of interest ) , and for example Ivan Ivanov ( certainly not Aranson ) What else you do not like the analogy with the case Preobrazhensky ? Reason and we can compare any number 's investigation has no such opportunities , and desire a little , so will the beaten path, it seems to me |
Different things at the Transfiguration rather have Dealer Serov and Nikonov examination was before the sale of paintings and handed over to the examination a Kuteinikov , gave dealers a picture with the expertise that the picture is authentic and are sold ( or given ) the so-called victim. Condemned not an expert and gallery owner who saw the picture only with the expertise that the picture is authentic and brush Kiseleva , it seems. Generally, a long story, I will not take your time retelling - there is an order for the Transfiguration personally . http://www.sovsekretno.ru/articles/id/1569/
Here arrested Basner reason and not a publisher , in general there are differences ... But you're right - can again put intermediaries (optional victim) , and forgers ( scammers ) will do with it. I can hardly believe that Basner falshak knowingly sold . I think it was framed. In the field of criminal law in the sale of the chains are forgers , after stuffing falshaka on the market , the rest of the mediators used " blindly " . Well, do not come to an expert swindler and says I brought falshak ! Any " provenance " tells the nightingale sings. Experts will understand what I mean . Vasiliev here before buying the painting even passed the examination. Why ? Why then passed ? |
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Well fool would not understand and "expert" understand |
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In fact, according to her method , the sample pattern is burned in the spectrometer and , as in the usual technological expertise , revealed the presence of cesium and strontium . Logically thinking , there are many nuances. For example, if there isotopes over 45 years since they must be on the new and old patterns . Either they must have a new body pattern , and the old - on the surface. But then except spectrometer requires a special set-top box type electron microscope so that you can burn any layer of the sample taken , not just the top . This is a very professional work , not to mention that prior to sampling need to create map paintings restoration , not to fall into the restoration and ensure that the sample is not contaminated. Difficult work requiring extremely high qualification. |
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And the reaction of the expert community - Eligibility: who is not a mediator - that's not my fault! Why psredniki something to blame if they did not know it was fake and forged? Yes, in the civil courts, lawsuits can be requested (as at Sotheby's), but to put all the people - absurd! |
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1. Yuly Rybakov told him that he already Grabar " Grigorieva " took as a forgery and 2 . to Grigorieva exhibition at the Russian Museum was issued its catalog , which was reproduced thing Grigorva " restaurant . " Added after 1 minutes Цитата:
Go to court, the investigative committee and there is talk. |
It is curious that Natanovu wrote fake artist from St. Petersburg:
http://mirnov.ru/rubriki-novostey/ob...hivyj-avangard Well done Germans - find forgers. |
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Solnce, thank you for quoting me so nicely. <! - ~ 6 ~ -> |
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I am not a witness in the case and appear in court have no right . Here on the forum and we are discussing exactly this case. While we only see the version and wishes of the attacking side and draw conclusions according to Vasiliev. Protection has not yet expressed . I do not deny that someone made a fake. But why should sit Basner and not forgers ? Why not Vassiliev passed picture even in Grabar , even in the belt , at least in the State Tretyakov Gallery before buying it? Basner would not be arrested , but he would not lose money. |
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-------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- Here is a discussion forum on the site ARTinvestment.RU " work " expert Basner in Finland ( November 2009 , October 2011 , etc.) .... Цитата:
================================================== =================== p.s. Dear Solnce, nobody wants E.Basner imprisonment , but if you nakosyachila , decide normally this joint , not mocked and kollektsionerom.V this problem that has now arisen for Elena , and these problems will be grow like a snowball ... |
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About Preobrazhenskih.na as I remember . There it was not a series of kartine.a sold fakes and other technology of their appearance .. On Basner.ona in any embodiment . link in the chain of intermediaries and participants Scams ( mk consequence nadeetsya.chto weak she is. much to lose ), and most importantly she could not know where the original ones acted deliberately .. And since she's also rabotala.est chances to get on primary - how to get counterfeiters dospup closed funds museums. I have no provenance upyamyanul ranee.chto serious raboty.smotret on examination ..... same thing. Monetku.Vasilev throw that knew no history podlinnika.no znal.chto is already in Russkom.a Basner could not know . |
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And its exposure in the episode with Vasilyev I explained to her the situation and experiences of similar output of Neh . Not the first in her Vasiliev was , but Vasiliev Basner know how special person , and because " turned green ", knowing who Shumakov sold "Grigorieva". |
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nightingale Basner not feed ...
"In general, I begin to fear that this confusion will continue for a very long time." (P.)
And who even knows where the real Grigoriev, and where a fake? Maybe put a fake to the store, and sold this? Then comes more fun. |
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