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Seriy 07.01.2012 22:55

The idea of ​​a gallery run by artists and working, and fashionable . I saw a gallery in a suburb of San Francisco. There's only fair for galleries, artists managed . You can at any Miami Basel ride . I am afraid for our realities, the idea of such a unification of the budget is broken into several tens of thousand dollars a year. What really enough artists together to remove room in the CHA or the Art Arena , that 's good.

Maskit 07.01.2012 23:04

Nat , a promotion , I mean in the short term to express yourself. how about a meaningful and successful artist. All of these you have A, AA ... imply desyatiletiya.I certainly a mistake to suppose that in addition to any artist who in his raising of the ADA does not nterisovan . But dealers and relatives, and gallery owners ?

NATA NOVA 07.01.2012 23:06

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For zero artists in our country may depend on retsepty.Vse temperementa and desires of the artist to do this for a long time . If you do not take EPOTE azhny option such as biting passers-by and shitting in front of VANGOGami , we can unite for a pack with like-minded and to organize the gallery Losers - with the slogan , and the last shall be first !

@ to interesno!
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buy each groomsman at auction pictures

It is financially irrational ( discussed earlier )

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painting portraits of our leaders and to hide away .. mediakumirov conscience and begin to wriggle himself , even slanderous , to well-known artists. Spread rumors about finding yourself in private kollektsiyah.izdat albom.kupit art for writing articles .

And this is a moral corruption (IMHO)

Maskit 08.01.2012 00:43

Nate , we're talking about promotion or moral decency ? Zero no artist can not do the dirty technology . Just . as mediocre Just as above average. Just as in our voiceless - stage all-star and from the artists , while he was with the principles and not easy to communicate the big promotion he did not see it. Of course I do not mean geniev.I then they should be diplomats or die time . And then . That certain dealers and even purchase the rascal of the wards , so that a rational fact. Do not stop at these artists and make 2-3 sales of its small kartinok.potom poke her imaginary uspehom.pytayas sell zalezhi.Inogda - suckers can be a lot.

Posav 08.01.2012 00:48

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as biting passers-by and shitting in front of VANGOGami

Well it was a political favor and Encyclopedias in the amusement of Big Brother, nemnogo another story.

NATA NOVA 08.01.2012 01:34

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Nate , we're talking about promotion or of moral decency ? Zero no artist can not do the dirty technology . Just . as mediocre Just as above average. Just as in our voiceless - stage all-star and from the artists , while he was with the principles and not easy to communicate the big promotion he did not see it. Of course I do not mean geniev.I then they should be diplomats or die time . And then . That certain dealers and even purchase the rascal of the wards , so that a rational fact. Do not stop at these artists and make 2-3 sales of its small kartinok.potom poke her imaginary uspehom.pytayas sell zalezhi.Inogda - suckers can be a lot.

Maskit, clear to me your position , but I do not think so ... ( other values ​​)

Santa 08.01.2012 06:41

best-selling artist revealed the secret of popularity

Takashi Murakami in the new millennium has become one of the most popular and highly contemporary artists, proving that it is not necessary to die in order to work for your collectors began to lay out millions of dollars. In 2008, his sculpture "My lone cowboy" was sold at Sotheby's for 15.2 million dollars, two years after its eccentric hero APP appeared in the Palace of Versailles in France at the artist's personal exhibition, which occupied 15 halls and galleries, as well as park .

"I think my commercial success due to the fact that, unlike the usually serious, and even the sublime art of my works are done with a smile and to bring a smile. I think that's it and people like "- raskazal Murakami told RIA Novosti.
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He was the only artist in the list of "100 most influential people in the world"
according to the magazine Time.

The artist came to New York to present the next project - a charity auction of works of their own and their friends, the proceeds of which will be sent to help Japan, suffered last year from the earthquake and tsunami. True, the last of his canvases Murakami DOB does not rejoice in life for hallucinogenic mushrooms, and cries, as in the song "New Day."

"The work I did after the tragedy. No one then could not smile in Japan and I could not. We lived in the news, which was the most important information on the background radiation, "- says Murakami.

He was in his Tokyo studio, when at three o'clock local time, today announced the devastating tsunami that struck the country. From the shock of the artist brought another call Yoshitomo Naro, which was 100 kilometers from the epicenter of the disaster. His first words were "how can we help?". Then, the first day of national tragedy and the idea of ​​an auction, which took place during the current week. By the Japanese project immediately joined many prominent American artists - Jeff Koons, Damien Hirst.

"Koons said at once," yes "and created a work specifically for the auction. Hurst surprised me with his desire to be with us, I knew that he and so much of their own charitable projects, but his reply was as fast "- says Murakami.

Japanese superplane

Murakami is known as nisprovergatel Japanese tradition, artistic rebel,
once said that all modern art in Japan is nothing but a subculture. In his books he invented it explains the principle of "superplane" perception, when the taste of the upper classes is not much different from the masses. It is this connection - high and low - Takashi embodies in his works.

"My art - about politics and society. After the Second World Japan still can not find themselves, their national idea. Hence the prolonged depression, lack of heroes and ideals, "- said Murakami.

In general, the vast majority of phallic themes of the artist must find a political subtext: kind of a Japanese symptomatology, wrapped in an American pop art.

Pop art came in his childhood, together with the American occupation troops quartered in Japan since 1945. Accessibility, clarity, simplicity of design of U.S. household items - whether it is a pack of cigarettes or sung by Andy Warhol soup bank, "Campbell" - were the first to pioneer the future of fetishes Japanese pop culture.

"Each of my work is inspired by the American abstract art, which captured my imagination was still in college. I am a child of occupation, and American pop culture has been part of my childhood. Pop-culture exists in order to convey his complex ideas in an understandable form, to make the complex simple "- said Murakami.

Between a cowboy and samurai

The artist finally explained what is the name of his favorite hero - DOB (DOB), which is a canvas and "cartoons" jumped on clothes Gucci handbags and Louis Vitton. This is not popular in the United States stands for, meaning the date of birth (Date of birth), and consonant with the Japanese word "joke".

Murakami and joking and it only works for inspiration.

I sometimes for weeks or months can not do anything. Then, like flashes in the head with an idea - and then I could not tear myself away from work - told the artist. First, he prepares computer-aided design. This, he said, occurs rapidly, and the execution plan on the canvas takes months.

Despite his passion for American pop art, Murakami apparently bears little resemblance to the representatives of the American avant-garde.
Only when Murakami was talking about his work, his movements are beginning to resemble a funeral passes. He is dressed in outrageous without any conservative black jacket, white shirt, and on his feet - coarse black shoes for the New York rainy autumn. But decorated in a bunch at the back hair and a mustache with a small beard reminiscent of the tradition of the samurai. On the question, whether consciously chosen image of samurai and whether it is an internal search for an artist, Murakami embarrassed.

"Yes ... I do not know ... I hope "- he said.

http://www.newsland.ru/news/detail/id/859885/

Maskit 08.01.2012 10:21

Nata.uvy are the realities of our deformed art biznesa.a I also value the other and add music to my collection I have on a different basis, but this is personal.

NATA NOVA 08.01.2012 12:15

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I sometimes for weeks or months can not do anything.

But it's inspiring! (As we'd like this! That will not even force myself now :-))

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Nata.uvy are the realities of our deformed art biznesa.a I also value the other and add music to my collection I have on a different basis, but this is personal.

Maskit, the reality, yes, dirty, I agree! (And among the "great" is full of bastards)
But man, as a person (as bioinformatics system), is able to create their own, a new reality (and their own, a new niche ).... But before he /she (the person /individual) must be able to continue as a "bio" ... (Survival, in other words) .. So the theme "unleash ..." should predshedstvovat theme: "As an artist survive?" :)> :)> :)>

PS .. Well, if you can not, then yes! ("To live with the wolves ..." -t.e. to resort to various pleased "dirty technologies")

But it is very dangerous, because penetrates into the unconscious (and in everyday behavior patern) and then the man himself ceases to notice the difference and just begins to manipulate his family, friends, children ..

Watch, you'll be amazed at what you find!

Maskit 08.01.2012 12:59

Nat , I, as a bioinformatics system . I understand that everyone wants to survive weed , but too ready to try their mnogo.Vsyaky likened himself known hudozhniku.I it spoils the overall situation. Few dare to liken himself famous ballerina - deception can not hide there for the talk about new directions in art and paintings , many are trying to school without any hard work and creativity to make their mark , rather nasledit.Davayte help someone to survive , and someone to die . I wish you live long. A hudozhnichkam not vsem.Kstati , for clarity of the situation , after the death of a dealer , I would put a number of artists , as was the true test times.

NATA NOVA 08.01.2012 13:11

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I wish you live long

Thank you, dear Maskit, for your kind words! (I've got the plans out there!)
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Few people dare to liken himself famous ballerina-

OH, (me)! :)>


Maskit, do not worry! Those who need all-clear; a those who understand them, so right!

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And of course, a mistake to suppose that in addition to any artist who in his raising of the ADA does not nterisovan

I regret arguing that it is an illusion!
In the "zero-artist" is not interested (alas) no one! Be Thou a talent though Repin, although 村上 隆 (Murakami)!

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And the dealers, and relatives, and gallery owners?

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If the relatives are in "support group, and if not?"
Dealers and gallery owners interested in profit, not the artists (and its promotion)
Nat, a promotion, I mean in the short term to express yourself. how about a meaningful and successful artist

 If there is a factual material (and in quantity and in quality and potential vostrebovatelnosti) how much not?

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All of these you have A, AA ... mean decades.

Of course! (But you can quickly (IMHO)
And for many years to create m0ozhno worthy material, in your opinion?

Seriy 08.01.2012 16:02

Maskit, once you have everything just hurts, weeds, Heritage School, cynical promotion.
I just now concerned about the issue, before mankind had to choose, Van Gogh or Bouguereau, where to go, whom to admit helmsman. One from the school with technology, with the traditions .. Monet said that humanity recognizes Bouguereau's greatest artists of the 19th century. Another real-crazy, the Academy immediately dropped as soon as it tried to make plaster painting for three years navayal 800 works with color bars, which no one even just for the painting did not recognize. No promotion was not.
Mankind thought and thought and chose Van Gogh.
And now it's the greatest of artists, character artists, and all seems like a natural, otherwise it could not be. Cost of works by Van Gogh and Bouguereau simply not comparable.
But in reality could be otherwise. We are in our dealers, who do not acknowledge modernity, they are distinguished by Bouguereau-modernism and stayed there happily write about how someone urinated on the picture of a modernist.
You can predict the turns of cultural history?

And Van Gogh was not the only example of blindness around dealers and gallery owners, just very bright. And Picasso's example, when Vollard stopped buying of blue-Picasso did not like. Or less known, Morsdey Hartley - do not wait for success, even though he worked in the sight of the first persons of the art istebleshmenta. Now one of the symbols of art America. And such examples darkness. Dealers usually do not appreciate the new, they can already appreciate the development, estimated up to them. Alas.

I expect you to an explanation of why mankind has chosen a psycho Van Gogh, Bouguereau and not with the school?

Кирилл Сызранский 08.01.2012 16:25

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I am here concerned with the issue now , before mankind had to choose , Van Gogh or Bouguereau, where to go, whom to admit helmsman .

The choice was made before - with the recognition of the Impressionists. Then already , and with Bouguereau , Cabanel , and with , and Jerome , and Meyssone was clear.
You well know the biography of Van Gogh 's , and remember where it was in 1886 , the year, including a goal , when the Durand-Ruel already took Impressionist exhibition in New York .

I-V 08.01.2012 16:53

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Humanity is thought and thought and chose Van Gogh .

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I'm waiting for an explanation from you as to why mankind has chosen a psycho Van Gogh, Bouguereau and not with the school ?

Humanity is still selects William Bouguereau with the school. Gray , put on Artnau ( at the same price ) a copy of Bouguereau and Van Gogh and wait for a while ...

And yet , if you will , opinion on the price list at the show : I think , it's best to start with, to print on A4 pieces 15-25 of price lists (where all the title, year of creation, technique , format) and add in the tray , from which everyone can take this .
You look, taking with him , and sit at home , sit , look , look, and even decide to buy something , you never know ?

Maskit 08.01.2012 17:08

I can not agree that the dealers can not appreciate the new , on the contrary they are the pioneers , they open their eyes a museum, gallery owners and kollektsioneram.U you all the examples from the distant past , and I have from my experience and my experience druzey.Ya know a good artist Marlen Spindler - None of the museum staff of his work were not needed as long as they did not deal with dealers and collectors - one of them is Nadia Brykina . Then the Tretyakov more fun if the remaining work and Vollard stopped buying from his beloved Picasso weaker , in his view , work and sent the funds to another channel , so it does not say about his blindness , but only on adherence to principles of the collector.


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