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SAH 28.03.2010 02:09

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1006572)
Give us some money? So?
Buy from us? Our?

A friend of mine thinks that the money is needed by everyone, and somehow all say these words. :D - and asked them to give. :o

28.03.2010 02:13

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1006772)
If the society consists of" sheep ", then so be it.

In the ring has no end ...
I think that any large-scale projects can budge the only or the State or New Pinchuk. A private initiatives catch up.
Another thing is that some states do not realize that something needs to be at least begin to do.

Кирилл Сызранский 28.03.2010 02:13

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Сообщение от SAH (Сообщение 1006812)
A friend of mine thinks that the money is needed by everyone, and all one way or another say these words. :D - and asked them to give. :o

You and other words to remember ...
... never ask for anything! Never did, and especially those who are stronger than you. Themselves and offer themselves will give everything! (c) :D

SAH 28.03.2010 02:23

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1006832)
... and never ask for anything! Never did, and especially those who are stronger than you. Themselves and offer themselves will give everything! (C)

I quoted the biblical vision of this issue ;) and you ... you know. :D

LCR 28.03.2010 02:45

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1006512)
I just you do not attribute, and write: "I heard like it ..."
There is a difference.

So, let's see. You do not attribute anything to me, that's wonderful. But if you can explain to me clearly (possibly with examples) which in my words you saw a parallel with the fact that you cite, namely:

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1006512)
"To catch up and surpass America", "The current generation of Soviet people will live under communism," "Every citizen of the USSR-contained flat in 2000, and now we're talking about the 65th (!!!) anniversary of Victory World War II veterans each separate apartment by May 9.
That these slogans (or "noodles on my ears) and similar" national project "with the program until 2015 year I shied away.

That is what I hang noodles, and whose ears?

From what you shied? Do you think that your domestic art market is on track? What visitors gallery owners and dealers are doing everything to develop it?
I realize that you do not agree with what I wrote, but I just can not understand what?
Could you for a short time to give up quotations and explain in your own words?


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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1006512)
The State must ensure that Spaws?
A new national project? "Every Russian painting by Russian artist in a separate apartment until 2020?

The state can not and should ensure that demand for local artists. The State has the necessary instruments, including fiscal, in order to create a demand for this enabling environment - many believe that it is part of the state functions. Some states, such as the U.S., started doing long ago, immediately after the Second World War.

Of course, you have every right to disagree with this practice, but keep in mind, it brings excellent results :)

Кирилл Сызранский 28.03.2010 02:46

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Сообщение от SAH (Сообщение 1006872)
I have brought the biblical vision of this issue ;) and you ... you know. :D

What kind of "biblical vision of this issue?
asking, but will be rewarded?
There really about the money? A?

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 1006902)
But can you explain to me clearly (possibly with examples) which in my words you saw a parallel with the fact that you cite, namely:


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Posted by Cyril Syzran
"To catch up and surpass America", "The current generation of Soviet people will live under communism," "Every citizen of the USSR-contained flat in 2000, and now we're talking about the 65th (!!!) anniversary of Victory World War II veterans each separate apartment by May 9.
That these slogans (or "noodles on my ears) and similar" national project "with the program until 2015 year I shied away.

Yes, I saw parallels all these slogans with your words:
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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 1006342)
is a vicious circle - the Russians willing to invest in art, buying works of western artists because of their disproportionately greater liquidity, respectively, the Russian domestic market of art, devoid of the flow of money, can not stand on its feet ...

And take into account the entire context of your message.
And there you did not talk about to giving?

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 1006902)
That is, some noodles, I hang up, and whose ears?

"To deceive", thank God, do not you hang, and the State by those cited slogans. Here are the slogans is "to deceive".
And any talk of gospodderzhek ultimately reduces to a simple formula in the form of such a slogan, the example I cited.

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 1006342)
The State has the necessary instruments, including fiscal, in order to create this demand, favorable conditions - many believe that it is part of the functions of the state.

Many believe that the functions of the state is almost everything.
We do not understand each other, respected LCR, that we are living in different states and we have different attitude towards them.
In Russia the state is the enemy of the people, the source of misery, pain, tears ...
I Did you izgnanitse, about this state resemble?

SAH 28.03.2010 03:02

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1006912)
What the "biblical vision of this issue?
Asking, but will be rewarded?
There really about the money? A?

Well, we do understand that money is much more than just green pieces of paper or metal coins, is the image of certain opportunities and freedoms. Taking into account all the above I have a question
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1006912)
There really about the money? A?

 answer of course about money, more and about them, too. ;)

Кирилл Сызранский 28.03.2010 03:16

SAH, I'll just give a quote ( forgive mnya, people, for it ! :) :p :D):
For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it shall be opened. (Matf.7: 8).
And so there you find what you want: money, green pieces of paper or metal coins, stocks, bonds, credit cards ...

SAH 28.03.2010 03:24

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1006982)
Did you really find that they want: money, green pieces of paper or metal coins, stocks, bonds, credit card ...

  About Diamonds
Cyril Syzranskiy forgot to say, best friends girls. :)

Кирилл Сызранский 28.03.2010 03:30

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Сообщение от SAH (Сообщение 1006992)
Cyril Syzranskiy forgot to say, best friends girls. :)

I girl in private conversations, say that it is a myth. They have other "friends" ...
But I do not believe it. :)

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Сообщение от SAH (Сообщение 1006992)
About Diamonds

ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, but to consume it upon your lusts. (Iak.4: 3).


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