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Любознательный 03.07.2010 23:59


Fantozzi 04.07.2010 00:01

At prices of 2004 I too would take it.

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It seems to me on the forum have citizens who knew the community cards.

Yurko 04.07.2010 00:04

It's interesting to know what the average price increase .. with inflation and other economic indicators ... ie Is this profitable business .. or capital advantageous to determine the bank ... business ... at last coins of ancient Roman gold to buy ... to obtain the profit margin per se (.. if I'm wrong ... blame me quite a while since university finished .. :))-sort of fee to cover the permanent embezzlement in the process of "making money", and only after a permanent waste will okupleny completely ... and awaited poluchaetsya PROFIT :)...

artcol 04.07.2010 00:05

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Сообщение от Fantozzi (Сообщение 1174462)
It's you, Mr. Guriev, hasty. Taste, knowledge, flair sell Valentino and Chanel, and art dealer sells a product called the picture, and the buyer expects to buy a quality product and the aesthetic and material terms.

It's just two different types of salespeople: some are selling yourself, others - art :D

Кирилл Сызранский 04.07.2010 00:08


Fantozzi 04.07.2010 00:15

Mr. Yurko! I'm a new forum, and while it seems that the only buyers of the camp. In truth I can not pretend, but from my personal experience, profitable investments those where there is surplus value. Namely: when I'm talking about investing in land, I mean not buying for themselves, and increase product value through - take stock of communications, roads, cutting down trees. Then the land + the cost of all allow me to increase the value of the product to the next in the chain, namely the builder. Gold is definitely not. As art, the art dealer (I do not take into account Aidan Salakhova, Gelman and others) are rarely brings in the product added value. Typically, this is the following:
- Sellers - "Yes it will be difficult to sell. It is not enough, no one needs"
- Buyer-"This is a masterpiece. The market is small and only me."

kr555 04.07.2010 00:20

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Сообщение от Fantozzi (Сообщение 1174462)
It's you, Mr. Guriev, hasty. Taste, knowledge, flair sell Valentino and Chanel, and art dealer sells a product called the picture, and the buyer expects to buy a quality product and the aesthetic and material terms.

Since the buyer expects to buy a quality product at absolutely any dealer? Or the one that is "knowledge, taste, flair?
If the work of the council to buy Ambroise Vollard - must be taken without hesitation. If the council Vasya Pupkin ...

artcol 04.07.2010 00:23

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Сообщение от Fantozzi (Сообщение 1174602)
Mr. Yurko! I'm a new forum, and while it seems that the only buyers of the camp. In truth I can not pretend, but from my personal experience, profitable investments those where there is surplus value. Namely: when I'm talking about investing in land, I mean not buying for themselves, and increase product value through - take stock of communications, roads, cutting down trees. Then the land + the cost of all allow me to increase the value of the product to the next in the chain, namely the builder. Gold is definitely not. As art, the art dealer (I do not take into account Aidan Salakhova, Gelman and others) are rarely brings in the product added value. Typically, this is the following:
- Sellers - "Yes it will be difficult to sell. It is not enough, no one needs"
- Buyer-"This is a masterpiece. The market is small and only me."

I buy my masterpieces. Usually from the workshop.

Yurko 04.07.2010 00:26

I agree with you ... but I know how to sell .. and experience of sales of assets of joint ventures to real estate .. I have .. from 1999 to 2009 had his own business selling across Nenko Ukraine .. yes that's come Kryz .. I thought of this talent to use to complete .. and questions the very subtlety of trade paint .. for me more important than ever ...:)
Thank you for explaining in basic terms: "What and how?" Subtlety painting trade and profit (as such) is a multifaceted aspect .. since so to speak.
And learn, my friend, would say as Volodya Ulyanov .. never postural :D
Sincerely :)

DSF 04.07.2010 00:30

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Сообщение от Yurko (Сообщение 1174202)
"With a painting you can earn more money - I mean everything from style to classical or modern?

"If we consider only the work of Western artists, we can ask ourselves: what kind of work is best grow in price? Here too, there are some general rules. Portrait of an attractive woman or child will be more expensive than a portrait of an elderly woman or a nasty man. Thus, the" Orange Marilyn Warhol brings at auctions amounting to 20 times greater than the exact same size "Richard Nixon" his own work.
Have value and color. Brett Gorve, one of the leaders of contemporary art at the headquarters of Christie's, says that you can distribute the colors in order from best to worst merchantability follows: red, white, blue, yellow, green and black. If we are talking about Andy Warhol, Green is on the scale above. Green - the color of money.
Vivid color sells better than faded. Horizontal pattern - better than vertical. Nude sold more than modesty, and women's naked body - more than the male. Nude Bush is ten times more expensive than a naked man with his own work. Narrative work sold better than the scenery. Still life with flowers is worth more than a still life with fruit and roses - more than a chrysanthemum. Calm water on the painting increases its cost (remember the "Water lilies" Monet), rough water - reduces (remember seascapes). Shipwreck is still cheaper.
Purebred dogs more mongrels, harness racing horses expensive. If a picture is present game, what more expensive hunting for it, the more it increases the cost of painting, for example, hazel three times the ducks. There is even a more specific rule, formulated by the New York private dealer David Nash: pictures with cows never sold at a good price. Never.
And the last rule formulated by the auctioneer Sotheby's Tobias Meyer. Once he sold at auction neon piece by Bruce Nauman Run from Fear /Run from Rear (1972), symbolically depicts an erotic act. When put in the work room, a voice from the back of the audience indignantly said: "obscenity". Meyer, never renowned for humor during the conduct of the auction, said: instantly: "obscenity is for sale. Of course, often everything is different, but for famous artists like Jeff Koons or Bruce Nauman it really sold. It happened at that time. "(Donald Thompson," How to sell for 12 million stuffed shark ")


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