Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/index.php)
-   Costs, valuation, attribution (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=6)
-   -   And contemporary art is now generally how much it costs? (https://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=37986)

moris 11.08.2009 13:09

Цитата:

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir (Сообщение 537136)
I strongly recommend to prepare the photo editor to the calculations in the network. This is also the work of your LENGTH (I explain to other visitors). Look and compare:

brightness I did not rotate, because turns out not as original (1 option should be completely black).

Черномашенцев Владимир 11.08.2009 13:13

I understand that your photos as close as possible to the original? And that my attempts to improve the effect of images lead to the removal of the original photo?

But I have not seen the original - I tried to correct those errors, which are usually obtained by taking pictures of everyday bad old cameras and lighting.

moris 11.08.2009 13:17

Yes, they are as close as possible, on some shots just a little gives warm tones (this is when the sun came out on the balcony):) ... and so in principle, 80%as they are the originals.

moris 17.08.2009 12:32

Вложений: 4
Please rank these works.

1. Cardboard /tempera 59cm x 24cm
2. Paper /tempera, collage 46cm x 82sm
3. Paper /tempera 72cm x 60cm
4. Cardboard /tempera 65cm x 50cm

Seriy 18.09.2009 21:33

Interesting topic, he thought, and this is what came.
We buy the best young artists work, masterpieces, but not everything, and SK distinctive masterpieces in the year he could write to Mr. 5-10. Picasso used and smaller. Selling them at 100-200 dollars, will get a ridiculous amount and will be deprived of work for display, for exhibition, t e all over again. Sale of 100-200 is not an ascent to the summit of success, and the path to a standstill. It is wiser to earn the money any other way, but work did not sell, think about careers. Picasso's Les Demoiselles d'Avignon sold 20 years after writing.
Of course, the market is large, there is work at any price, but personally I am for $ 100 have not seen anything interesting.
Here Saatchi here quoted, that he regretted that he did not buy the Basques at the beginning, when he gave the work for nothing, for nothing, for $ 500 but, excuse me, 500 dollars in the 1980s is a Multi base thousand dollars today. And who said that Basquiat gave 500 his masterpieces, and not flow?
In short, modern art is quite expensive, blundering, low prices. Tale, that $ 100 you can buy a bag that over time will cost millions, will remain a fairy tale.

Кирилл Сызранский 18.09.2009 21:40

Цитата:

Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 611906)
Picasso's Les Demoiselles d'Avignon sold 20 years after writing.

Yes, and then Khokhlova made. : D

Vladimir 18.09.2009 22:49

Цитата:

Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 611906)
sale of 100-200 is not an ascent to the summit of success, and the path to a standstill. It is wiser to earn the money any other way, but work did not sell, think about careers.

Part of this most career - the formation of a broad range of practical admirers, loyal customers, entering into significant collections. Artist himself, and this is important and useful. A high price for the novice artist - is an obstacle to such entry. It is no accident in the west of the artists and gallery owners see to the rise in prices has been modest and followed the progress of the artist (exhibitions, catalogs, etc.) did not watch the process - and your buyers will be speculators who have questions promote the artist's work - high to light bulbs. Vzduyutsya prices (for example, speculation on the auction), the former owners will suffer on the resale of the work in the gallery and find out bad news. By the way, before all this is not his intelligence came, and an experienced gallery owner said.
I think the normal price for the artist's work starts - about $ 500, but better and cheaper. Then be able to buy many of the sincere admirers. Thousands want to win.

Jasmin 19.09.2009 00:27

Цитата:

Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 612056)
experienced gallerist.

Experienced gallery owner, he tells young artists, what price a better place and what kind of work because it is interested in selling, first and foremost.
Цитата:

Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 612056)
normal price for the work starts the artist - about 500 dollars

Not exactly, may be 1000-2000 dollars - as advise experienced gallery owner, because he is better than the artist is guided in prices and sales ... and tastes of its customers.

Seriy 19.09.2009 09:41

Vladimir, hit in the major collections suggests that the works comply with the format of the normal-sized, oil on canvas, not paper 20 by 30 cm with modern prices of materials for sale works for $ 100 can not provide a normal quality and the amount of work. After a blank canvas 100 by 100 is about 1000 rubles, and canvases must be many, that the artist felt free. Value-of-a blank canvas sold a successful work can be 1 to 5, and maybe 1 in 10, and even sketches of marriage ... So two options paper or waiting Gregory Peleman canvases with a truck as a gift.

Vladimir 19.09.2009 10:07

Seriy, the economy is clear. But remember anecdote: - Why all the apples on the market for five rubles, but you are the same, but ten? - Just a very need money. $ 500 - is 15 canvases, as well as the monthly salary of HTML-coder. Which may well be sincere admirers of contemporary artist and is ready to do for his career much more than any high-minded characters. Why deny them that right?
Pro significant collections: there can generally be measured in money, so much better bargain. Just right itself pay extra.
Wait for the arrival of conditional "Hellmann-Peleman" with a truck - if not hopeless, it is very protracted tactics. Today, for self-promoting artist has a fantastic arsenal of low-cost funds. Why not start with in order to present their work and (most important) ideas in this forum to a separate topic? On this occasion - in late September we will have a seminar on promoting an artist and a new section to promote online and offline.


Часовой пояс GMT +3, время: 18:37.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Перевод: zCarot