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04.11.2009 11:25

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Сообщение от Vivien (Сообщение 677674)
When the time comes for the artistic fashion not to be able to draw again come to be able to fashion. The future is not for Gipperrealizmom, in my Peer, but for realism with the addition of something of his - the direction which is closer to the artist as his soul. As an example, realism with a slight admixture of "futurism" or "impressionistic".

Painting - one of the methods devised by man to save the information. In this regard, all the isms perform one task and tighter, and therefore have a right to exist today and in the future. Just people differently perceive the information transmitted (the riddle of the human psyche). Hence the set of evaluation criteria, and all of these disputes. The human community choir where everyone sings on one of the notes, on a signal from one dirizhera.I is good!

Pavel 04.11.2009 11:35

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Сообщение от Buscador (Сообщение 676884)
This is a reket ... And that held immediately gives the artist? And this man - just spins. And you do not let any unknown uncles in his workshop.

This is Sam Sam in response. This he finds talantlavogo etc.
In order to unscrew the need to have familiar people who believe you that you have bought a painting they preobretut things have risen in price in the near future. I call this reputation.
The most important thing for sale, I think the opportunity not only to freely buy and sell freely. While this will not happen until the exhibitions, open competitions and other promotion will be at the level of lung fraud. Effects-subba collection of some razzorivshihsya bankovBlestyaschy example rasskrutki this promotion Durand-Ruelle Impressionists.

Pavel 04.11.2009 11:52

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 678144)
Painting - one of the methods devised by man to save the information. In this regard, all the isms perform one task and tighter, and therefore have a right to exist today and in the future. Just people differently perceive the information transmitted (the riddle of the human psyche). Hence the set of evaluation criteria, and all of these disputes. The human community choir where everyone sings on one of the notes, on a signal from one dirizhera.I is good!

By I think it is not. The merit of leading artists such as Picasso is to open new paths in every action-ve. They create a style that okazavaet influence on many artists. This style was impressionism, Empire, classicism, Soviet art, etc.
With modern action-tion the fact that he had already worked out and turned into a kind of theater, and has no prospects as easel Art vo.A so prospects easel lawsuit Islands inexhaustible. The thing is traffic, trade. Only in the traded value of b is determined moterialnaya works of art.

04.11.2009 11:57

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 678164)
The most important thing for sale .....

The most important thing for sale is a desire prodat.Samaya .... big mistake creators (artists) - to give their creations "to implement" as seamstress or consumer goods in lavku.V this case, the seller is no incentive to sell - not selling to hell with him, right. "artist, give money, and he whom you sold to turn up on the wrong side to get back their money and" weld. "The relationship of the artist and gallery owner must stand on a solid economic basis without snot. Unless, of course, the artist really evaluates itself and does not live in a twilight world of his genius.

Семен Семенович 04.11.2009 12:35

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 678024)
The acquisition of paintings, at prices far below market value - not the essence of investing in kartiny.Eto just good priobretenie.Investirovanie in the picture, is to buy at realistic prices to date, given the fact that the painting over time rise in the price.
This requires some knowledge and course information, the ability to predict the development of the market (if any) or a sense of speculative demand (very briefly).

I see contradictions. Investments - long-term investment capital to generate income. You invest in expensive, to obtain income, I - in the cheaper ... The investment term is dependent on supply, demand and desires of the investor.

Семен Семенович 04.11.2009 12:41

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 678204)
They create a style that okazavaet influence on many artists.

What do thousands of good artists who are not going to open anything? And that those who want but can not ...:)

Семен Семенович 04.11.2009 12:43

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 678164)
The most important thing for sale, I think the opportunity not only free to buy but and freely sell.

Please explain what this means?

Buscador 04.11.2009 13:02

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 677604)
But the realists, especially in gipperrealistov has one strong drawback - they are all the same. Gipprerealista How to distinguish one from another? The complexity of large - but whether it is necessary?

If you are talking about the imitators, it does. And if the artists, then each should have its own theme. The development of his subject and gives the option of having your face (unless you possess a special technique). In any case, not to speak in general terms, it is better to see the concrete work. At realists, impressionists ... - To find their motive, their colors (now this one does not bother himself). Generally, alternative or you wannabe, or create something of their own, in my opinion, rather artificial. I think it came up artists do not adequately owning their profession. Renoir - one of the most talented impressionists of his time, dabbled in different techniques, different styles ... He could admire the works of fellow guild is not arguing style, but only to obtain the final result. This master commended the work, rather than the process of its creation ...
And what do you think is similar to Serov, Levitan Stozharau on Zverkov, and Ossowski on Grits or Tkachev ...
Perhaps someone and interested in philosophy and the mental state of the author. And from these components, they assess the work. But .... Although, I'm sorry, I got carried away and think this is not about ...

04.11.2009 13:27

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Сообщение от Semen Semenovich (Сообщение 678294)
I see no contradictions. Invest? Tion - long-term investment capital to generate income. You invest in expensive, to obtain income, I - in the cheaper ... The investment term is dependent on supply, demand and desires of the investor.

The contradiction in the confusion of the investment ... with banal speculation, where the term of "embedding" of today takes into account the demand and supply and unlimited desire of elementary "cut" the difference!. The speculation did not see anything wrong with that. But I do not accept as a petty seller called "manager "and" attachment "treSka - investment.

AlexanderG 04.11.2009 13:30

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Сообщение от Semen Semenovich (Сообщение 678314)
Please explain what this means?

Dumaiu, chto Pavel imeet vvidu likvidnost.


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