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mihailovoh 20.03.2010 12:24

Pavel,
Again povtoryus.gallerey and dillerov.v Moscow sotni.hudozhnikov tens of thousands.
In the regions you do not know and do not pokupayut.nuzhno. That the artist was present in kollektsiyah.gallereyah on maksimumu.I it's not tsene.posmotrite striking example for sale from the collection of science fiction in Nemtsov, bought the painting in magazinah.oni were available and the names of the worthy. do not require raskrutok ..
In any business Muscovites are already present vezde.a artists are afraid prodeshevit.vmesto togo.chtob radovatsya.chto their work will see Miter.

Peter 21.03.2010 00:51

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I just do not know how to understand: whether the artist went to the other, or simply write here other artists?

Absolutely agree with you. Here hudozhniki.Dilery other people write and then talk less about money and more about painting, paintings discussing the artistry of the past, artists istoriyu.Pochemu same stupid money? Surely there must be artists, and that the artistic and picturesque talk interesting . The method works well, Falk, for example? Or has genius, than its own sales nothing interesting? Let's create a pictorial theme.

Veronic 21.03.2010 10:20

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Netushki, such as you, with "rich artists" I do not vodilas :D

My friends were from those whom you honor with morning to evening, from those who have had no orders, no show.

I think that while it was being different. Those orders were simply well-lived, and those who did not have them specifically not wanted anywhere. Money does not occupy a central place in people's lives, they make it difficult, and spend - even more difficult. Therefore, the values were spiritual.

DSF 22.03.2010 00:25

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With age I devyatnadtsatilednego all zhinz held in communion with the artists ... then there I am with them vozhus ... nearly 40 years. So, I swear to you, I never "heard" of such a cluster of references to money, sales, promotion, etc. They, that is my artist friends - and they are still very few, and many of them are well known - in general, tell a different story: about their favorite artists, trends in art, seen on the shows.
I just do not know how to understand this: whether the artist went to the other, or simply write here other artists?

For a long time thinking how you respond, Liana, but you have answered yourself, simply and clearly :)
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My friends were from those whom you honor from morning to evening, from those who have had no orders, no show.

I'm almost forty years of contact with "official" provincial artists, who had everything. And talk about the money they were no less than now, only in latent form, in kitchens and workshops. In life it manifested itself in the war factions in the chair Raspredkomissii, which depended on receipt of orders. Victorious got sweet life, the losers sit down "to dry" (this expression was meant - to 120 pp. Per month). Now the situation has slightly changed, the war faction is in control of the proceeds from the rental of the Union premises. Old cadres have hard times, pushing up the young.
As for "uezzhantov "...[ QUOTE=Posav; 995011]You can just see the biographical data of how many of them settled in New York and will be clear to whom they have worked and are working now.[/QUOTE]
Do not want to see biographical information on Russian artists Х1Х beginning of the twentieth century? For example, on Shchedrin, Kiprensky, A. Ivanov, Pohitonove, Bryullov (oh, yes, he also "learned how to draw a card so all my life and painted, boring and monotonous." Thank you "great" enlightened.) Another list? Where they settled, and on whom worked?

22.03.2010 02:16

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I almost forty years of contact with "official" provincial artists, who had everything. And talk about the money they were no less than now, only in latent form, in kitchens and workshops. In real life it manifested itself in the war faction of the chairman's seat Raspredkomissii, which depended on receipt of orders. The winners received a sweet life, losers sit "on drying" (this expression was meant - to 120 p. Per month). Now the situation has slightly changed, the war faction is in control of the proceeds from the rental of the Union premises.

:D In the very point!

Grigory 22.03.2010 17:08

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Must be kinder to each other! (said the evil admin)

U_Z 22.03.2010 20:07

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Be polite, and everything will be fine. Achieve a ban by chance is very difficult.

Grigory, I beg your pardon, but I would like you to clarify: "The Artist Kocheyshvili - sacred cow or untouchables?"

We Cyril in an intellectual debate to discuss the place of the artist and his immediate prospects for artrynke. Also it seemed to me that we were extremely careful in their assessments.
 
" To achieve a ban by chance is very difficult to " For what sins? For true?

inega 22.03.2010 20:10

Good evening! Developing the alleys of the Internet, I came to you on the forum by chance. As the artist herself. And it must be the same today, when I carefully read the dialogues, "branch" talks broke off.

LCR 22.03.2010 20:57

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Grigory, I beg your pardon, but I would like you to clarify: "The Artist Kocheyshvili - sacred cow or untouchables?"

We Cyril in an intellectual debate to discuss the place of the artist and his immediate prospects for artrynke. Also it seemed to me that we were extremely careful in their assessments.
 
" To achieve a ban by chance is very difficult to " For what sins? Over TRUTH?


I think that your message was removed with Cyril from the fact that they, among others, were in the middle of Pavlik's invective against all and everyone, do not worry (I also cleaned up a bit) :)

22.03.2010 22:23

Maybe someone will tell about kuratarah exhibitions?
I mean not museum exhibits, and author's projects.
The fact that the curators should be the ideas and the ability to pronounce the means to find accommodation, awareness, something to work with artists, the ability to organize artists, and later - the exhibition - is in a nutshell Somewhere something on the forums has already been named. But more interesting, too, including the reasons for which are in this area of activity (or still is predominantly art? Cultural studies? "Free artists" kind?). What do (or nothing) between the curators and art dealers?
And (I know how do not like such questions here, but I would venture all the same) - in which tools themselves curators are there? My guess - that part of the sponsorship is the means to "pay" the curator, but I would like to know more precisely.
In my opinion, it is not enough such people (Moscow does not count). Pre grateful for any opinions .:)


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