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Кирилл Сызранский 18.03.2010 18:30

It is easy to talk "in general" and not about anything, but if you want to make people understand-writing authors, name of artists.
Gallery is working with various artists.
For some clip-Bulatov, Nemukhin, Unknown, Steinberg, Chuikov, Nesterova, Juice, Shemyakin, for example, for someone-Koshlyakov, Albert, stargazers, Vinogradov /Dubosarskiy, Zakharov, Shutov ...
And someone very young and all of these works considers the exhaust clamp.
And there are "old" realist, "surovostiltsy" ...
Look at the list of sponsors Sovkoma, there will be living with a third, and I think a lot of first names in his "directions /manifestations".
And all this "modern art" is called in order to emphasize that the authors are alive and our contemporaries, but someone "sovriskom" only aktualschikov calls, "kontemporari" for them, and Kulik is a classic.
Go figuring ... :D
Names'd better call.

Pavel 18.03.2010 18:53

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 989622)
The fact that you have written - a nightmare gallerist. That is why the artists do not want to take a promotion.

I left the gallery more Prestige. Now, a gallery in which only were artists, and hence higher prices.

Кирилл Сызранский 18.03.2010 19:05

Already had a link to this interview, but povtryu regard to this piece just a theme.
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Are there any criteria for the success of the contemporary artist?

Yuri Tyukhtin:
- Criteria for success of the artist - is stable sales of his work and the growth in their prices over the past 5 years. Someone will be very expensive sold last year, but the transaction is a unit - it is nothing said.

The artist must be talented, and then to it have an interest. It only seems that the art market is a subjective - for the professionals have a clear understanding of whether a project is successful, there will be any dividends in the next 10 years. This is the level of professional intuition.

Frankly, I'm afraid to work with contemporary artists. The fact that the culture of contractual obligations in this market segment works as follows: in the initial period of the artist is interested in the promotion, then all grow wings and all are geniuses. And, accordingly, each becomes "the director himself. Legal culture in our country is extremely low, not all live under the treaties, but on concepts. And the artists are no exception. I have on one hand enough fingers to list of contemporary artists, with whom I am ready to work.


DSF 19.03.2010 01:21

The longer I live in the world, the more I read the forum, the less I like the artists and the more - gallery owners and dealers. There was a good topic of the relationship gallerist and artist, which zatyrykal "great oroginalny asanizator. In our time, personally I side artdilerov. They have had hard times.
Most of our artists are lazy, inarticulate, and at the same time, the rash and ignorant. They are exorbitant on anything not based ambitions. They are usually only two topics of conversation:

1. What I'm great, and all the other mediocre.
2. How do I cut down, cut down and will hew grandmother.

Respect the March, a forum of artists never will be.
Must say "thank you" to people who sell your work, do not be a goon and a hypocrite, and you will have an excellent relationship with them. I am always well behaved and have never regretted it.

Seriy 19.03.2010 10:33

DSF, something you set unrealistic ... Personally, I read two art forum (ÀðòÍàó and American portrait painters), in which there is no gallery owners, they're banned. Moreover, there's LJ, in which the mass of artists who, and write on any topic, and communicate with each other and to them your bile characteristics does not apply.
At each forum there is a specificity-if you go to the forum render.ru-like, too, about the images, drawing, images and sales, but his own, an outsider - abracadabra, in general it is not clear what write.
Owners of galleries and artists, whom I know personally, all beautiful, kind, sympathetic, cares for the art people. And you the same wish.

artcol 19.03.2010 12:32

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 990382)
That's for sure ...
There have been attempts. In different way, countries ... :D

http://wetcanvas.com/

Артём 19.03.2010 13:23

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Сообщение от L-ana64110 (Сообщение 989632)
In today's internet world can anyone find the artist you liked, too, to go directly to the artist,,, And bind the artist "forever" to his gallery is
First-realistic
secondly, not interested
third-slavery as for thin-ka and for gallerist

The fact that you write to me are always interesting, but now disagree. I just assume all try on, forgive. Personally, I do not work with people whom I do not trust. I am not a shoemaker and by-and no I am not enticed!
First, all people prof.zanimayuschiesya art will not be tied to his gallery.
Secondly - it's interesting, but until a certain time.
Thirdly - what slavery? Sample! On slavery are artists themselves, no one is begging. This is a choice!

LCR 20.03.2010 01:54

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 989112)
And I often hear the question from the artists: "What to buy?" What I paint? "

Lord

Can I tell?

With age I devyatnadtsatilednego all zhinz held in communion with the artists. Now I'm 58 :mad:. that is, I am with them vozhus (more on the verb "to associate", but "tinker" also had :)) nearly 40 years. So, I swear to you, I never "heard" of such a cluster of references to money, sales, promotion, etc. They, that is my artist friends - and they are still very few, and many of them are well known - in general, tell a different story: about their favorite artists, trends in art, seen on the shows.
And then suddenly looked - Japanese policeman, 137 pages about "money up front" (not only, of course, I exaggerate, but still!).
I just do not know how to understand this: whether the artist went to the other, or simply write here other artists?

In general, all this to me somehow wonderfully for and rather sad ...

L-ana64110 20.03.2010 10:50

About tvocheskie search artists speak on other sites, this site is about investments m, e for those who can count denyushki and does not consider it shameful for a ;)

Семен Семенович 20.03.2010 12:01

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Сообщение от Pavel (Сообщение 992652)
Some people say, what You give, thank you dear for gallery owners and dealers. Other once-skeptical money on promotion and take pictures too, but then, no money, no pictures, sorry, tried.

How strangely it looks ... It seems that one can not hear others. Something I do not remember that one of the gallerists here wrote - the money up front, the picture and give it free ... And if with someone and this happened, "Who you doctor. It's just that I would be here complaining that the artists I have taken away the money, take orders and advance and hiding in an unknown direction :).
In this connection, we can not agree with LCR - Yet earlier artists cared more about the artistic merits of his work and did not "appear for court semi, 'raw' work). Based on the same set of today's judgments and demonstrations of artists can be concluded - the more the artists speak about money, the less creative efficiency ... (unfortunately)


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