Something confuses me ...

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Something confuses me ....

OY! And as they understood it?
And how to find their LAST show v1923g?
And in general about ihdeyatelnosti in the 20th century?

In terms of ideology, or pictorial means?

Socialist realism, from Sergei Otroshchenko.

And in my opinion, the realism of everything that is not abstract and not purely decorative painting. :)

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Samvel, bottom row, in my opinion not Sots and realism, and decorative painting ...

Your notes had studied. There are numerous objections, but then one day, if she is alive I will:)
No, your allocated me a red phrase I think is completely untrue, and your explanations are not convincing, because:

1. The most important realist artists of the twentieth have absolutely no relation to Socialist Realism;
2. Sam Socialist Realism was the realism of a rather complex relationship.

 
   Was such. Moscow, April 1923. And what exactly do you want?

Isms unrealistic .... much like Op Art ...

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EVERYTHING about her, about them .. Who was involved. what they did. what works (2goda looking already) ..

all. disabled. All Good night!

      List of participants:

Arakelyan, SA
Baksheev VN
Bashilov JA
Belyanin NY
Bogdanov IP
Bom-Grigorieva, NS
Gefel GI
Guzikov SM
Zhuravlev VA
Zaitsev, MM
Ioff AS
Isupov A.
Kasatkin NA
Katsman EA
Kachura-Falileeva EN
Kelin PI
Kirsanov, MG
Kiselis PY
Kozitsyn KD
Kozochkin NS
Kolupaev DK
Corinne AM
Korygin KP
Krainev VV
Kurmanaevsky VP
Markichev MA
Medvedev GA
Meshkov VV
Miloradovitch SD
Mikhailov II
Moravians AV
Nikonov, NM
Obukhov GL
Panfilov AP
Perelman VN
Pichugin SI
Pletnev LA
Radimov VA
Radimov IA
Radimov PA
Reznikov MV
Savitsky GK
Sviridov PP
Seregin GK
BI Smirnov
Soloviev AM
Strunnikov NI
Sukhotina MA
Filippov VA
Kharlamov ME
Khalyavin NF
Shemyakin MF
Yakovlev VN
Yakovlev, BN
Yakovlev SN

Prvilno I realized that the list of participants 48 (last) Exhibits Wanderers in 1923 (as found?)
Spasibische enormous! (a lot of them as!)
Now the names stoke-Google-Muğla necessary in order to extract the picture ..
  I found it strange that such an interesting stage as it fell ..
(Socialist Realism was not there, probably the starting point of social realism should be considered 1932god?)
  Prior to that time was full freedom of expression .. it is interesting that for the pictures were there ..
Let's see ....
Once again a hearty thanks!

Shl: women again just 2 (!) With them and begin! (unfair outrage!)

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Examples? (I want to understand)
What? (The names?-I want to understand)
  This is my red, the phrase "needs clarification. better way : "Realism 20veka almost automatically will read the art of Totalitarianism"

This will be whiter than objectively (t.k.voydut realism regimes of other countries sots.lagerya (posle.voenn., Italy (prewar), China (where he was introduced from the USSR. Incidentally)

 

I reach in any time. Buda pleased comments and objections

You can contact by Skype-minute thing and it's free, I can call (via satellite is a penny) ..
Before connection.

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I would be glad. Where are they?

But above all (from Amoy above) is - check dictionaries ...
(I was very strange that you just do not offer examples, and not call names, but no examples and names are very difficult to guess that you have in mind ..)
I understand realism above all realistic school izogramotnosti and call it art.)
I do think (judging by the objections) Vyshi definitions relate to, perhaps, ideology, and I am very sorry that you can not converge to support their objections at least pictures ..
And strangely, why? Objections without arguments is that? (and why?)

Here is an example of realism (which is why it is called in different ways-one-"creative method", the other "neoclassical" - Can you tell the difference?) And for the future of all
be "art totalitorizma" would be good to have in this series to put the Italian and Chinese (and other bratv-steelworkers (or workers) and I'm sure they exist, because they are the product of totalitarian systems)

realism of the 20 th century almost automatically be read socialist realism
And what about S. Dali, D. Rivera, K. Kollwitz, Picasso, Marc A. ....

Answer my questions first

For examples not far to seek. You have cited some names, for example, Albert Marquet. You can add - by eye and without any systematization:

France - Maurice Utrillo (d. 1955), Pierre Bonnard (/mind. In 1947), Edouard Vuillard (d. 1940), a good half of the first Paris art school - Paskin, Fujita, Kisling ...

Italy - Giorgio Morandi (d. 1964)

Germany - Artists direction "New objectivity» (Neue Sachlichkeit), originated in 1920. The work of many participants in this direction has been exhibited at the exhibitions of "degenerative art" (I put on the forum a complete list of participants in these exhibitions, where it was possible, I have illustrated, look, if you're interested). Frankly, often do not understand what the Nazis do not like about the work of some artists-realists.

Generally realism 1920-30 gg. indeed associated with the art of the totalitarian regime (Germany, Italy, USSR), and in my opinion, without any reason. These trends were observed in all European countries (see above, "New objectivity", see also the stylistic changes in the works of artists such as, for example, on the one hand, Maurice Vlaminck - a future collaborator, on the other hand, Georges Braque - a strong opponent of the Vichy government ,), the only difference is that in democratic countries, they are not supported by the authorities, and not realism became the official art - simply because it needs the official art in such countries was not.


USA-brilliant Edward Hopper (d. 1967), Andrew Wyeth (died this year) ...

Well, I think this is enough, but then my neurons are quite peregreyutsya:)

Perhaps you have not noticed "ALMOST "....
Regulation without iklyucheny not happen (Wyeth and mentioned in "Notes"), and speaking of realism I had in mind the realism. I call the orthodox (bifocal)
(Hopper's genius did not think the rest should be revised-TK. "Not deposited)

No, ALMOST I noticed (I generally try to read more carefully). But when the exceptions are the major artists of the twentieth century, it seems to me that this almost is not enough.

  .. And how would you respond? What is your version?