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Alexey86 03.04.2012 08:58

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Hello
please help assess the carpet.
I know that he is very old, handmade from wool and from Baku.
A pattern can be determined by whose is it?
The size of his 148 * 245

Барвиха 03.04.2012 15:16

carpet
 
Factory-applied serial Carpet 60-80 godov.Po incorruptibility my opinion!

emir 03.04.2012 15:29

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Сообщение от Alexey86 (Сообщение 2053501)
Hello. please help assess the carpet. I know that he is very old, handmade from wool and from Baku. A pattern can be determined by whose is it? The size of his 148 * 245

Yes, it mat knitting machine, factory, nothing of value!

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Сообщение от wasya (Сообщение 2026601)
I am interested in color in Turkmen carpets of the postwar period. I asked him about the hand-made carpets.
For some reason, they say, that if artificial colors, the carpet is of no interest, despite the hand-tie of Turkmen carpet. However, during the Soviet era carpets were export commodity, a source of hard currency earnings. Hence, the carpets were valued in the West. I've heard that Turkmen carpets of the early 20th century, the vast majority of aniline. Maybe, carpets badly appreciated by aniline ugly? And in the postwar Turkmen carpets aniline was replaced with a better paint?

Turkmen carpets are not only degraded the appearance of aniline, everything has changed, no longer a high-quality yarns and the elite has become, began to weave a simplified drawings, designs and so forth. You just need to understand ... The 20th century is called the tech starts industrialization, life and culture of the eastern nations is changing dramatically. Organized industrial cooperatives with weavers, which already has a plan for making carpets, so their production is simplified as possible. Of course they had a price, as were woven from natural wool, were strong and durable, but collectors are no longer interesting. These carpets have a decorative function only.

Wasya, as I understand you are fond of carpets, well, here and ask a lot of other forum on this topic, but feel that you are just few of them have seen. It's all art experts advise, that a good deal of painting, you need to watch a lot of museums, galleries, exhibitions, online, in catalogs ... need to "fill the eye." And this also applies to a variety of oriental rugs. In Moscow, there are many places where all of this can be found in hands and collectible antique Turkmen rugs and later Soviet, new. All at your fingertips when you live it all in check, you will fall off a lot of questions will have to understand themselves, there is nothing particularly complicated.

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Photos from the fair antique, collectible rugs, the stands are mostly Turkmen carpets.

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These mats are already Turkmen Soviet period, not so long ago bought on eBay. This larger size, more than 3 to 2 meters, the figure Ersari, the second half of the 20th century, quality video is not very bad, like Save.

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Also bought on eBay, 190x150cm, Turkoman design, the first half of the 20th century. Silky Qual-th coat, poured paint.

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This rug weaving Baluch tribe of Afghanistan, but used the Turkmen Turkoman figure in ornament, very quality video and clearly turned, the beginning of the 20th century.

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Alexey86 05.04.2012 11:12

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Сообщение от Barvikha (Сообщение 2053901)
carpet factory-applied serial 60-80 godov.Po my opinion incorruptibility!


in all respects it is suitable for manual work.
It still must be cleaned so that it was brighter.
it had long been erased.

VeraZili 05.04.2012 14:29

99.999%of that machine ....
Even on such a picture
 
You made a phone that photo on it and really do not see the carpet ...

If you are sure that we make mistakes normal quality picture and then you would have it photographed under a microscope ...

wasya 08.05.2012 18:35

Do you think the carpet Bidjar ( Iran) really made ​​the famous technology of wet loom : http://molotok.ru/kovyor-ruchnoj-rab...257205191.html
Embarrassed that one of the photos carpet quietly emerged in the crease . However Bidjar should be hard carpet. Another embarrassing tape sewn along the carpet.
Here is another Bidjar, but without the tape http://molotok.h.mail.ru/kovyor-ruch...277123164.html

Барвиха 08.05.2012 19:51

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Why BIDZHAR?
The ornament on the ground Tabriz, the second Bute, which occurs not only in Persian but also Caucasian, Turkmen, Uzbek, and Turkish carpets.
In this photo, you can not say anything!
One can only assume that it is a modern CHINA!!
(Color ink)

SergeiSK 20.05.2012 13:50

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Tell me what kind of carpet and how much might it cost?
Dimensions 240h140 cm, wool, good condition.
In the second photo the other side.

Antony 20.05.2012 19:28

Lint-free carpet - kilim.
Apparently the so-called
"Bessarabian".
All the artificial dyes.
IMHO - the value is not.

Antony 28.05.2012 23:11

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Turkmenistan's got a carpet sack, if I remember correctly - yamudy.
Do you have any thoughts on the subject of age?

Thanks in advance.


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