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Pablo 13.11.2012 23:40

That, incidentally , is a good question to ask the pros. Heard the prices are formed in Holland for the work of artists. I do not know , however, is applicable to expensive or not, but still: the sum of the perimeter (40x50 = 90 cm ) and then multiplied by a factor that depends on
1. Famous artists (marks in the press and on TV)
2. number of sold works
3. how long the artist paints
So, if this applies to the pricing of our reality , and really, what determines the price of work and value to potential buyers? ie if the work he liked to call the right price ?

K-Maler 13.11.2012 23:56

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Сообщение от Pablo (Сообщение 2338771)
Now, if this applies to the pricing of our realities


Well, here again we must refer to the classics - ".. the mind can not understand Russia, no yardstick to measure ..." ...

Кирилл Сызранский 14.11.2012 00:18

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I do not know whether it justifies the $ 23 million - is already pricing secrets.

What kind of "pricing" may be involved in the auction?
Who is that " constitutes price "?
:D>

Hammer in hand, the auctioneer after the auction, except that ...

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Aivazovsky - another topic. He is a true artist, a few papers will soon be on sale at Sotheby's.
To be honest - I do not like everything to me, and not all inspire confidence .. But appreciated not very expensive.

Interesting now to read these messages, remembering that for another 15 years - 20 years ago the average cost Aivazovsky from 20 to 30 thousand dollars and bought it from a couple dozen Russian decoration for their foreign offices and official residences, since imported products purchased in Russia was and expensive and unsafe. :)>
Then, by the way, in London Russian sold at 100 - 150 m long. maximum, and the next, in the next room of some pre-auction exhibition of Spanish art XVIII - XIX centuries, with the numbers in half - million. :D>
But our art, remember, reached one million level, if I remember correctly, in the spring of 2004, when on sale "Chaliapin collection" was recorded the highest sales of "Beauty" Boris Kustodiev (1 123 900 USD incl. Bp while the estimate was 236 - 315 m long.).
Moreover: no nekolko eth superpokupateley our art mid zero years, the world market of Russian art and would be doomed to a miserable existence on the margins of insidious auction elite - Impressionist paintings, old Mstera, sovriska works, for example, PDI franuzskogo XVIII century.

K-Maler 14.11.2012 02:04

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Сообщение от Pablo; 2338771"
Heard prices are formed in Holland for the work of artists .

Actually , I would have joined the issue of extending it a bit : is there a market in Russia buyers, not investors ? Ie "just customers" - buy a home , to hang on the wall to change somehow , somehow enrich the sense of their every day. I mean, modern paintings , selected personally, not a designer. Some time ago, such buyers were .
Now , the market offers for decorating housing saturated and satisfy undemanding first taste , second and demanding taste has a lot to offer ... The picture is actually a very complex element of life, not even the interior, it needs attention, rather, dialogue. Perhaps contingent residents who have had such a request, just disappeared. Society has changed a lot , all dramatically " wrong" ...

Seriy 14.11.2012 07:47

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Сообщение от Pablo (Сообщение 2338771)
By the way, there is reason to ask the pros. Heard the prices are formed in Holland for the work of artists. I do not know , however, is applicable to expensive or not, but still: the sum of the perimeter (40x50 = 90 cm ) and then multiplied by a factor that depends on
1. Famous artists (marks in the press and on TV)
2. number of sold works
3. how long the artist paints
So, if this applies to the pricing of our reality , and really, what determines the price of work and value to potential buyers? ie if the work he liked to call the right price ?

Why not apply ? applicable. If you are 20 years in the market , newspapers , magazines, TV on your report regularly and you have sold to 300 , then 301 will sell quickly and at a good price. :-)

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K-Maler, I did not find a time when consumers were many, but in 2012 there are buyers, the only question is the quality of work and its cost.
Hang on Artnau-like work-buy.


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