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Кирилл Сызранский 21.04.2009 21:59

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Сообщение от fross (Сообщение 337526)
All the jobs were in temporary storage, and now they are distributed.

I know.
But here is surprising:
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Сообщение от fross (Сообщение 337296)
invites you to participate in the sale of works

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Сообщение от fross (Сообщение 337526)
Loktev

Of course, GTG was hoping that she did all the "give", and now buys all of GRM.

Физик 21.04.2009 22:50

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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 14936)
on a desperate "action painter," which shows there is a video where she was photographed during a session of masturbation - it is possible that modernist been reading Harms, because instead of brushes and a palette knife to create his masterpiece She enjoyed the cucumber, - after which she sewed a causal place

Weak plagiarism: the philosopher Diogenes (the one that lived in a barrel) rukobludstvoval in front of the crowd, saying, "That would be hungry and could relieve rubbing his stomach ..."

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 30856)
market: if you are subscribed to the Tretyakov Gallery, then you automatically stand more - said publishing Mr. Sokolov - And it is an invasion of private capital into public policy, and it can be called nothing other than a Corruption. "guide of the Tretyakov Gallery sued the ex-minister to court, demanding to admit his statements harming the reputation of the gallery. At the same time a separate suit for defamation filed by Mr. Sokolov, director of the Tretyakov Gallery, Valentin Rodionov, demanding to collect $ 1 USD., but then withdrew the claim.

In April 2008 Khamovnichesky court of the capital, where the lawsuit was filed, admitted statements of the former minister's private judgment, "which, by law, is not evidence in cases involving the protection of business reputation.

These "private judgments" artists often repeat and take note, trying to donate or give to the "temporary storage", the documents remain, they then show to buyers, because the artists themselves about this talk. Maybe this is all exaggerated, but it seems that the order ought to bring.

K-Maler 26.04.2009 23:15

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Сообщение от Nik (Сообщение 12516)
In fact, the boundary between what is considered offensive and what is not always very blurred.

In this case, not blurred. The journal XQ (N67/68) O. Kulik in the crown of thorns stands on a barrel in the premises of the market, with a pig's foot in hand, and suckling pig. At the bottom of the relevant figures: a butcher in an apron, skinned carcass, all with a grin. HZHN63 all devoted to "faith." It opens with an article by Gianni Vattimo "I believe that I believe, which is accompanied by a picture MikkiMausa" crucified "on the cross ...

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Сообщение от Nik (Сообщение 17506)
I Erofeev personally do not know, I want to believe that he is a very decent man ... but ... facts somewhat tempted to trust in him. I think the Ministry of Culture will be exactly the same reason and would prefer to reinsure

'll Have to quote exactly from the text, on which wards A. Erofeev bullied: "By their works ye shall know them ...".

Nedogonov 28.04.2009 16:05

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 347856)
In this case, not blurred. The journal XQ (N67/68) O. Kulik in the crown of thorns stands on a barrel in the premises of the market, with a pig's foot in hand, and suckling pig. At the bottom of the relevant figures: a butcher in an apron, skinned carcass, all with a grin. HZHN63 all devoted to "faith." It opens with an article by Gianni Vattimo "I believe that I believe, which is accompanied by a picture MikkiMausa" crucified "on the cross ...

I'm afraid you are mistaken, my dear K-Maler. The boundary is blurred, because nobody can not see it and all who either lazy, go through it to and fro. And, then - no longer bound at all, and not at the castle.

That is the case, the publication of cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed (2005) - that was the border!
The actual border, the final, as professor of Transfiguration said. The whole world in his pants then imposed. And here - Mickey Mouse is a ... He - a mouse!

I wonder if the "ironic" orthodox "curators" staged in Moscow, an exhibition with works such as "Jewish sages of the Talmud reconciled with the concept of the exhibition" Forbidden Art "or the like - That would be then?

I would be angry, Ben Lazar, in this case, the steeper the wrath of Bin Laden? Experiment, it seems, no one wants! Everyone wants to carry his own cross!

Кирилл Сызранский 28.04.2009 18:43

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Сообщение от Nedogonov (Сообщение 351846)
The whole world in his pants then imposed.

Wishful thinking. Even in Denmark, where he published the cartoons, made some noise disturbed a couple of days, and then hissed, so that all understood and all ...
I myself was there, "the object being hit, but was rebuffed when people came under the full program and
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Сообщение от Nedogonov (Сообщение 351846)
in pants laid

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  whence only appeared "Muslim" with knowledge of Russian and an ingratiating attempt to settle the conflict have begun to offer: vodka, of course, beer, tea and coffee ...
And people came just took me for a local, goosey ...: D: D: D

Nedogonov 28.04.2009 19:31

Cyril Syzransky, you personally - reshpekt and уважуха! :)
The only pity is that all happened in Denmark.

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wishful thinking
As for "desirable" - this is your speculation, but the "real" something "was strong in all media, with foam and hysterics.

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caricature scandal - cross-cultural conflict between the Islamists and the European cultural tradition, founded on freedom of speech, which began in late 2005 - early 2006 and covered almost every country of Europe and the Muslim East and the political conflict within the European states. The reason for the conflict served as a caricature of the Prophet Mohammed, published in 2005 in a Danish newspaper (Wikipedia).
And our Erofeev with his Samodurov - heroes common, though bold, and the archetypal in its own way. Would give them "as if" - would have withered long. But others will. Name them - legion. And the existing system itself, although it threatens them with a finger for fun, but actually creates the conditions for them all.

I do not find them wonder hero, as there in Denmark: D

Кирилл Сызранский 28.04.2009 19:32

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Сообщение от Nedogonov (Сообщение 352046)
The only pity is that all happened in Denmark.

Why? There are sometimes interesting ...

Кирилл Сызранский 22.05.2009 11:05

Brother.
 
The text is not new, but here in this topic it is interesting.
Viktor Erofeev.
21.06.2008
BROTHER
In a country that greedy self-congratulation, to the gross animal caresses, scratch oneself in the blood of her irrepressible self-esteem, in a country where the crackle of fallen trees in a wet forest abruptly gives rise to the idea of a shot and a brief course on the history of the CPSU (b), the best way to make life in the future becomes harassment .

  Thanks to my brother Andrew's detractors: they laid him too much for everyday existence, the path to a meaningful value of actions. Censuring him for the crime of official indifference to the iconostasis, locality grab-bag of rulers and saints, they demonstrated lifelessness of faith and advocates of which they imagined to be. It would seem, obscurantism, persecution if only because of its historical redundancy should have been dissolved in Russia's air, but no: it finds its continuation whenever the state as a stone figure, sticks with arms akimbo, and, snorting, pretends that arose from knees.

  If you depict a portrait of Andrew's radical aesthetics, which is close to him and clever custody which earned him the curator of exhibitions of national and international recognition of colleagues, thanks to artists, then no discount for irony, he would deserve rather than the mad orgy of colors and bold imagination, but a modest mocking face bessrebrenika with a transparent halo.

  In a country where the main motivation was greed actions, prescribed by the copies from the top to bottom, Andrew has created an unprecedented collection of contemporary art based on selflessness and, ultimately, handed it to the Tretyakov Gallery, the enlightened elite that stared at her as a "poster in the goat . Phantom censorship mediocrity and servility, materialized in a muddled, but yurkom director of a major museum of the country, decided to move towards a ban on "images", remove them from the exhibition, yelling, as usual, of mocking and pornography. His brother grabbed the Self-censorship by the hand, creating out of its prohibitions exhibition "Forbidden Art". Censorship exploded in a fountain of pus - in all corners of the earth opened up and gave the taiga valleys hidden censorship resource: the nationalists, fascists, together with them some high holy fathers demanded retribution. Kissing Policemen in a birch forest grew into a symbol of outraged nationhood. Art-mocking - a clear indicator of the state of hypocrisy - as it had once happened to Harms, were shot to please the almighty wrath of the cave representations. At Andrew's opened a criminal case with a fierce connotations. As mock honors, director showered his pile of warning, and under this pretext, the head of the newest trends become unemployed. This is - all-Russia row, for which once answered persecutors brother, possibly on the same court, who are afraid if they do not, then at least, their squabbling terrorized soul. I am not ashamed of the persecutors, but for the country, where the judge for "pictures" under the laws of medieval fanatics.

  My brother - a rare idealist. I know how it happened, that thirty years after the Metropole, showed forbidden literature and ridiculed by Soviet literary order, Andrew gave a demonstration of a forbidden art in the country, which under the new conditions for a long time was fixed so as not to take the vicious circle of its history, but here has so I went. Andrew helped us to do then "Metropol", this training does not go in vain. He thought about how to become an artist, but chose to become an art. From Zvereva and Nemukhin, Kabakov and Prigov to today's "Blue Noses" - an enviable scope of his professional passions, friendly conversations, for which he has lived for many years.

Andrei and I - are not the only brothers in Russia, the combined creative interests. But unlike some other brothers who sought and delved down to public benefits and bonuses, Andrei and I are ready to say that the emperor has no clothes, since he has nothing - is strange, however, that the Kings still have not learned to cover his nakedness.
  http://www.erofeyev.ru/index.php?opt...5&Itemid=1

K-Maler 22.05.2009 19:01

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 398256)
Thank you my brother Andrew's detractors: they laid him too much for everyday existence, the path to a meaningful value actions. Censuring him for the crime of official indifference to the iconostasis, locality grab-bag of rulers and saints, they demonstrated lifelessness of faith and advocates of which they imagined to be.

Actually, do not quite understand the logic. The Muslim community is defending his faith, the Jewish community its identity began to focus all of their actions, but when the same claims about the Christian community, then starts shouting about freedom ... And?


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