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artcol 14.04.2013 17:36

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw (Сообщение 2555501)
Whatever the author.
There can be 150 masterpieces from the author.
Or to change the meaning of "masterpiece" in the dictionary.

But I did not write "masterpieces", namely, that "stuff."

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2555471)
difficult

Conceptualism - is including
another attempt to do (not /anti) commercial art.

Кирилл Сызранский 14.04.2013 17:55

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Сообщение от artcol; 2555531"
I did not write "masterpieces" , namely, that "stuff ."

So do not be shy !
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Сообщение от artcol; 2555011"
I have more than 150 of his works - and I do not complain about the low prices for Motorina ... After all, whether they are high , I have not appeared in the hands of so many excellent material.

Write correctly - the material is excellent. Can not sell it themselves - leave as a legacy to children , they say thank you and once again rejoice in their luck to be born of such a visionary , visionary father - a man with bezoshibychnom flair , delicate taste , Dawn eye.

Fantozzi 14.04.2013 18:14

For Marousi. Dear, Marusya. Do not forget that the art of socialism developed in complete informational isolation. I do not know how old you are , but I remember a time when any import thing - pens, lighters , chewing gum - it was like a message from outer space. For chewing could give half of my life . And this is born of complete isolation , for example, a style ( direction) - called harsh. When an artist passes only color that is not so beautiful life in the USSR. Is this not a destination , not a separate segment in the world of art ?

artcol 14.04.2013 18:17

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2555571)
Do not be shy !

Write correctly - the material is excellent. Can not sell it themselves - leave as a legacy to children , they say thank you and once again rejoice in their luck to be born of such a visionary , visionary father - a man with bezoshibychnom flair with fine artistic taste, with a keen eye to business acumen .

Again with writing errors :D> Relax ... Materyal hanging on the walls ... Children live in a nice atmosphere ...

Кирилл Сызранский 14.04.2013 18:25

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Сообщение от Fantozzi; 2555591"
And this is born of complete isolation , for example , your style (direction) - called the stern .

This style is not born " in total isolation ", in Moscow in 1957, has already passed the VI World Festival of Youth and Students.

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Сообщение от Fantozzi; 2555591"
When an artist passes only color that is not so beautiful life in the Soviet Union .

You mean " was a good man grandmother Anisa " Victor Popkov ? Or about "Geologists" Pavel Nikonov , or about "repairman" Taira Salakhova ?

artcol 14.04.2013 18:49

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2555631)

Kuybysheskaya HPP.
Lenin.

It is not for me ...

Кирилл Сызранский 14.04.2013 18:56

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Сообщение от artcol; 2555611"
Again with writing errors

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Those grammar rules, in respect of which a different compatriots developed psychosis and phobias, the level comparable with the fear of castration, have their roots in the distant Soviet childhood. They eat children's fear of the stupid and spiteful teacher, in front of the dominant grandmother to ridicule classmates. That childhood trauma so firmly imprinted in the minds of future grammar-Nazi all their funny and absurd, borrowed the notion that Russian once and codified in the rules, which were hammered into their heads in childhood teacher and grannies. Of course, this is particularly strong childhood trauma in people whose natural literacy was not, and for spelling mistakes strongly shpynyayut around.
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A person who has not had this childhood trauma, do not understand no aggressive grammar-Nazi, nor their limitations. It is especially difficult to understand why they are not adequately react when they drive from the dictionaries of the Russian language and Russian as classics of citations to prove the irrelevance of rules advocated. It seems to be that adults should not be so responsive. The trick is that the grammar-Nazism has nothing to do with maturity and relevance. It is a painful projection adulthood cruel childhood complexes and phobias, completely drowned out the voice of reason. A position of a normal person, not knowing in the life of these injuries, yet beautifully expressed AS Pushkin's famous novel:
How rosy lips without a smile,
Without grammatical errors
I do not like Russian speech.

(Eugene Onegin, 3: XXVIII)


artcol 14.04.2013 19:19

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2555661)
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Okay, okay ...
:shy:>

Fantozzi 14.04.2013 19:31

This is about my many works of the period - Popkov series "Widows " Salakhov " Neftyannik " and many , many others. Red - the color of calico - no longer on the banners , but everywhere is - or clothing, or a mouthpiece , and the rest in gray - gray . Concerning the recognition in the world of this period see www. tmora.org for fans of non-conformism Kolodzei Art Foundation.
 Regards.

artcol 14.04.2013 19:38

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Сообщение от Fantozzi (Сообщение 2555741)
Popkov series "Widows"

"The Overcoat father"

Кирилл Сызранский 14.04.2013 19:45

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Сообщение от Fantozzi; 2555741"
concerning the recognition in the world of this period, see www. tmora.org

A link to the museum here in the forum gave five years ago in this theme. :)>
And by the way there:
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Сообщение от qwerty; 105495 ​​"
Are you seriously mistaken , I think all the United States, along with Britain not even make up a dozen galleries in which socialist realism presented at least one picture. There are a couple of figures that the restructuring grabbed for a song of this genre , and are now trying to sell them for at least some money. Foreigners have grown and raised on a very different cultural values, social realism they cause less interest than the art of Burma , there is at least some exotic ...


artcol 14.04.2013 19:48

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There are a couple of figures that the restructuring grabbed for a song of this genre, and now they are trying to sell at least for some money
This allegation.

Кирилл Сызранский 14.04.2013 20:01

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Сообщение от artcol; 2555781"
This allegation.

You know better , but the author of this, as you put it , "allegation" has consistently describes the London Russian sales Sotheby's /Christie's , recently are just painted from Maastricht TEFAF, as well , and I suspect that it is still a little better than you know the situation in the western market . :D>

Fantozzi 14.04.2013 20:46

Cyril went through your link, read the opinions of previous debates on a similar theme (this was before I joined the forum .) Understood - your position clearly negative for this period of art. Frankly, I would like to find more supporters , not critics of the discussion - it would be interesting to exchange views , may find new authors in the regions, etc., etc.
Speriamo che arrivera il tempo. Arrivederci.

Кирилл Сызранский 14.04.2013 20:51

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Сообщение от Fantozzi; 2555911"
Understood - your position clearly negative on the art of the period.

Yes that is my position. My position is simple: I love some of the " art of the Soviet period ", but even a lot, but the talk-then we are not on the likes /dislikes , and about investment or, if anything, less pafostno - on the art market.
By the way, I think the topic:
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In the art world, the case of commercial developments that affect the story. About some of the auctions of contemporary art it is clear that they have been "turning" and become "legendary". That's the fair, as is quite common phenomenon in the country, for the Russian art was a remarkable event. Fair to our country as the guest of honor has occurred, such as the Madrid ARCO. But here besides eight galleries, has agreed to a separate "Russian platform," Our artists were represented by more than 20 booths of 140. Decent stats!

In weighty international environment and they looked quite well, comparing favorably to the best examples of the conceptual solution and plastic quality. Still, attended by almost all the key names, except Kabakov. Artist, which I personally think is the most important in modern Russian history - Erik Bulatov Parisian gallery Pièce Unique gave all stand. Concept selection of photos from Kharkov Boris Mikhailov occupied one of the two walls of a huge boxing Suzanne Tarasiève, another fit object of Krasnodar Recycle, whose installation "Facade" greeted the audience - but it was a lot all the days - in front of the Grand Palais. Several galleries exhibited a series of papers recently departed Vlad Mamysheva Monroe. Fair turned lively and full of discoveries that have no commute to Frieze and FIAC, so, in turn, to those no one expects "Russia at a party."

Selection of galleries "Russian platform" (Booth gallery pop /off /art was in the central area because of the Berlin branch) might seem strange and previously was criticized: Heavyweights "Regina" and "Triumph" refused to participate, but were added alien topical contexts "Erarta" and "Heritage". Absence of the first had no effect (the same Pepperstein, Callimachus and Kulik, recently featured in "Regina", was seen in Iragui, Anne de Villepoix and Rabouan Moussion respectively), while the Moscow asked Grinberg Photos (during the fair news arrived in time for inclusion Bakhareva - exactly on their side of the center - in the main project of the Venice Biennale) and St. Petersburg gallery Gisich two main masters of the Northern capital - Vitaly Pushnitsky and Kerim Ragimov.

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