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Самвел 30.11.2012 12:55

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2365071"
So , Sotheby's.
"Unofficial ":
Drevin - Lot 318 - £ 44 450 ( all prices in GBP);
Nikritin - 2 lots are sold ;
Infante - three lots sold one - l.310 - 61 250;
Krasnopevtsev - 3 lots , sold everything l.313 - 40 850, l.333 - 25 000 334 - 49 250 ;
M. Shvartsman - l.314 - 79 250;
Masterkova - l.315 - 37,250
Zverev - two lots - 316 and 317 of 12 500 each;
Tselkov - Both lots are sold ;
Weisberg - 5 lots , 4 sold - l.323 - 49 250, l.324 - 229 250 (! ) L.325 - no, l.326 - 37 250, l.327 - 10 65;
Sitnikov - 4 lots , sold 2 - l.330 - 43 250, l.331 - 31 250;
Brewers - l. 332 - 20 000;
Bulatov - sold one of the two - l.335 - 20 000;
Nemukhin - l. 340 - 103 250;
Nesterov - l.341 - 27 500;
Komar /Melamid - l.345 - 82 850;
Zhyvotkov - l.347 - 10,000
Macs - l.349 - 5000 ;
Kulik - l.350 - 20 000 .;

The "official" :
Ishmametov - no;
Yablonskaya - 12 500 (see Maintenance Zverev lots) ;
Gerasimov - 22 500;
Antipov - 38 450.
And the two still lifes of the 26th -
Pimenov - 181 250;
Nalbandian - 175 250.
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Is there a catalog of the auction, something I can not find.

artcol 30.11.2012 13:12

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Сообщение от Igor Guryev (Сообщение 2364851)
Subject somehow marking time ...

Maybe one of these days will open a branch classification of art of the Soviet period ...

EBZH *

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* This is Leo Tolstoy wrote , "If I'm still alive " type.
Virtually .

Generally, it is very important, otherwise you have to write zakavychivaya socialist realism .

Кирилл Сызранский 30.11.2012 14:43

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 2365281)
Is there a catalog of the auction, something I can not find.

Of course there is:

Russian Art[/B][/URL] 26 November;

Paintings[/B][/URL] 27 November.

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Сообщение от artcol; 2359961"
good for a syuzhetets to Mr. contemporary artist : Khrushchev sputtered on works of art .

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in the next room - the picture with the Manege exhibition. In his film "career" Leonid Metchnikoff looked pencil wherever spat Khrushchev . work , traces of which are lost, played on the slides. Slides, thus becoming stage of historical distance to the events of 1962. As in 1962, accompanied by a replica of Khrushchev - but now they provoke not only the " abstract" paintings, but also the audience who become participants in audio installation .

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Кирилл Сызранский 30.11.2012 16:35

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Сообщение от artcol; 2359961"
good for a syuzhetets to Mr. contemporary artist : Khrushchev sputtered on works of art .

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in the next room - the picture with the Manege exhibition. In his film "career" Leonid Metchnikoff looked pencil wherever spat Khrushchev . work , traces of which are lost, played on the slides. Slides, thus becoming stage of historical distance to the events of 1962. As in 1962, accompanied by a replica of Khrushchev - but now they provoke not only the " abstract" paintings, but also the audience who become participants in audio installation .

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Самвел 30.11.2012 19:22

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran; 2365541"
in the next room - the picture with the Manege exhibition. On his film "career" Leonid Metchnikoff looked pencil wherever spat Khrushchev. Work, traces of which are lost, played on the slides. Slides, thus becoming stage of historical distance to the events of 1962. As in 1962, accompanied by a replica of Khrushchev - but now they provoke not only the "abstract" paintings, but also the audience who become participants in audio installation.

Is it too much honor artists who once called not censored word. Now and drooling became exposure. At one time someone did a good job, I think it was all planned. Good work, now that after half a century, it brings enormous pribyli.Hryuschev while not even guess how he planted the mine. Which of these artists actually sat had a really unusual mysterious fate suffered and suffered for this time? For such prices, because if there is no art, there must be an unusual life of a genius, there is neither the one nor the other. If we take Rabin, it is always the same, which is a Bulatov stencils and Tselkov do not understand how I got into this business. The others do not judge because not very familiar with their works.
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran; 2365431"
And at Christie's tomorrow, I do not see any sotsrealizma and just the official Soviet artists (except Alexander Volkov and Alexander Shevchenko?), But the non-conformists are good: Tselkov, Sveshnikov, O. Vasiliev , Sitnikov, Shablavin, Weisberg Plavinsky, Nemukhin, Rabin, E. Steinberg, B. Orlov ...

Now, about the Soviet artists. If we take the work Yablonsky and Nalbandian, that heaven and earth, but look at price. A simple bouquet Nalbandian price is maximum $ 5000, sold more than 200. Yerevan is built a few years sold in the antique shops of Moscow, and has not found a buyer, suddenly just a bunch of shoots so, what is it? Probably just have to raise the price of Nalbandian in our market, that's the result. I think all that was going on over the hill, everything is done for the domestic market in Russia.

Кирилл Сызранский 30.11.2012 19:30

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Сообщение от Samvel ; 2365911"
If you take Rabin , it is always the same, which is a Bulatov stencils and Tselkov do not understand how I got into this business .

In the words of Comrade . Khrushchev 1 Decem 1962 in the Arena :
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Are you not know how to draw ? My grandson and it is better to draw !
What is it? What are you - the men and pidarasty cursed, how can you write? Do you have a conscience ?

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Сообщение от Samvel ; 2365911"
Yerevan is built a few years sold in the antique shops of Moscow , has not found a buyer

" Yerevan is built " was sold on 25.10.2008 Sovkome (Lot 83) for 6.5 million rubles ( 240,500 USD).

Самвел 03.12.2012 00:10

This bouquet Nalbandian haunts me. So many questions and no one answer. Well, for example those who praised him as to why this stupid bunch, received such high praise. On television in Armenia passed after Saryan, another Armenian artist was so highly valued here, and it was said with some pride. But if you look on the other hand, it is not proud and I would say insulting names like Minas Avetisyan Bazhbeuk Melikyan, and hundreds of Armenian artists, not to mention that before the Soviet hudozhnikah.Poluchaetsya Nalbandian them grow and grow, for mockery. How to understand how not to manipulation, some are surprised when I talk about manipulation, but here I think it shows glazom.Naprimer not armed, the one who put this bunch at that price, I think that the place at auction recently discussed at the forum. Raise the price to $ 260,000, buying it will pay $ 25,000 fee. Having at even 3 meters of Nalbandian, and any, because worse than this bunch can not be. After the sale, it is easy to sell a job for $ 50,000 and here comes the result of net income $ 75,000, for the cost of this work is minimal. And if he has 10 or 20 Nalbandian, you can even sell it for $ 20,000, and no doubt they will go like hot cakes. And here we draw a certain graphics, investment risks, conducting statistics etc.

Игорь Гурьев 03.12.2012 06:04

What is happening to the prices of Nalbandian - it's all a mystery to me.


Frankly bad, helplessness artist, not knowing how or paint or harmonize colors.


Corrupt, the whole fake through ...


Brad ...
Where such prices, I ask myself.

And do not find the answer.

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Сообщение от Samvel ; 2369021"
raise the price to $ 260,000 , buying it will pay $ 25,000 of commission

Are you sure?
If a man put a thing and he himself had bought , then there will be a few more . It would not be 40 percent.
But all the same "political economy " seems clear.
And the way to invest .

Man hopes to recapture its costs over several years.

The one in the history of the darkness we hear examples (we will not specify now what it is, but those were true. And they will .)

artcol 03.12.2012 13:03

And in what the auction sale of these flowers has occurred?

Сергей Мельников 03.12.2012 13:55

Nalbandian
 
Nalbandian - a " brand" since Soviet times . Plus, how many in this " brand" have invested in post-Soviet times , for example, Leonid S. Shishkin. On his site you can see a film about Nalbandian. The Armenian Diaspora ( both in Russia and abroad), to this writer a special relationship. Wonder why their prices and consistent growth is not necessary. Sold at Sotheby's in London ( 27.11.12 ). Large and vibrant still life.
I would have hung myself with pleasure .

artcol 03.12.2012 14:04

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Сообщение от Sergey Melnikov (Сообщение 2369651)
wonder why prices and consistent growth is not necessary.

In principle, yes.
What is $ 260,000?
Not millions, though.

Сергей Мельников 03.12.2012 14:35

Nalbandian
 
Only "kopeck piece" in a residential area of ​​Moscow.

Кирилл Сызранский 03.12.2012 14:41

Nalbandian.
 
Nalbandian's work in the domestic market in bulk:

at Shishkin, for example, or

Сергей Мельников 03.12.2012 15:08

Nalbandian
 
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"Kopeck piece" - this one-bedroom apartment, which can be purchased for $ 260,000

(N is the value Nalbandian).
"Sovkomovsky" n t - super!
If you look closely, the part of the work occurs and there, and there.
Maybe someone is willing to offer HT Nalbandian?

artcol 03.12.2012 15:21

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Сообщение от Sergey Melnikov (Сообщение 2369831)
" kopeck piece " - this one-bedroom apartment, which can be purchased for $ 260,000
( n is the value Nalbandian) . " Sovkomovsky " n t - super! If you look closely , the part of the work occurs and there, and there. Maybe someone is willing to offer HT Nalbandian ?

There are so-called use value , and, I suppose, that in the eyes of a rich man P.stoimost much less P.stoimosti kopeck piece of still life.


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