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Евгений 23.02.2012 07:56

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Сообщение от Barvikha ; 1992771"
Here's a photo of the back of the carpet ! Your opinion?

Michael, it is quite possible that this is a sign of hand-made carpet raboty.Osnovnoy carpet machine : the product fringe sewn , hand-made carpets in the fringe - a natural extension of the warp of the product. (Make a clearer picture of fringe , and all will become clear , or they simply take a closer look , and all .)

VeraZili 23.02.2012 18:27

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw (Сообщение 1579931)
has recently sold in Poland. In the description - Karabakh , 1828 . The price was 5300 PLN . , Approx. 1300 euro . 232 x 105 cm is not bought.

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And they sold, according to the description - Ersari , beg. 19th century , 500 x 375 cm 26 000 PLN wanted , but nobody gave <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

I 'll take part in the debate <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
Age carpets greatly exaggerated ...
Ersari good ... but not the beginning and the beginning of 19veka 20veka . In the early 19th ersarinskie rugs were colorful ... a lot of blue . blue-green and yellow met , "copper ," it is called (though the color is less) Malotsvetnye have to weave in the early 20th century. And malotsvetnye Ersari woven and woven Turkmens living in Afghanistan ... These rugs are not highly valued as the quality of wool and the work is not so hot ....
The second pad is also good but he is clearly the end 19veka as suspect mixed colors ... like red and it flowed and painted here and there ....

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Сообщение от eva777 (Сообщение 1989811)
​​Dear forum ! We brought out our gallery of rugs for sale in Germany . Help please , define what it is and how much it costs ? Three large and one small .
Thank you !

Iranian handmade carpets 1960 70gg I think a lot are not worth ... First the bad condition .. worn out and worn kakieto there ... Secondly aniline, and even burnt a not nice ... In the third in Europe are cheap they are all online auctions clogged ...
at C grade carpets in general ....

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Сообщение от eva777 (Сообщение 1989821)
more pictures (the first - actually blue ...)

These carpets are even worse ... supposedly first psevdoTekin Turkmenistan - very fresh and killed

A second small car - it is generally no right rubbish ...

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Сообщение от Barvikha (Сообщение 1992591)
I too bought!
What is your opinion?
I do not understand!

Hover a good <! ​​- ~ 1 ~ -> uniquely handmade!
only other photos can be seen that wiped very soon ... the reflex restorer <! - ~ 1 ~ -> begin to consider how much work there <! - ~ 2 ~ ->

And so ...
and I would have bought the issue price .... ...

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As you can tell from a manual machine work?

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Сообщение от Barvikha (Сообщение 1992821)
So machine work done in the Soviet Union, right?
But it?


This is the same manual work!
a good way mat <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

VeraZili 23.02.2012 18:44

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As you can tell from a manual machine work?

VeraZili 23.02.2012 18:46

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Сообщение от Barvikha (Сообщение 1992821)
So machine work done in the Soviet Union, right?
But it?


This is the same manual work!
a good way mat <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Барвиха 23.02.2012 18:53

Carpets
 
THANK YOU!
The first is worn, but not much.
interest of 5%is not much he can more. cost?

Самвел 24.02.2012 09:33

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Сообщение от VeraZili; 1993611"
Hover horoshiyodnoznachno handmade !

I'm not questioning your statement . I am sure that you know much much more than I do in this area , the more I'm just still look to the carpets. But if we are talking about this rug , I would like you to know. This turn of the carpet as this can be considered as manual work ? and if so, what year do you about the carpet ?

Барвиха 24.02.2012 09:53

carpet
 
SHAHNAZARLY.SHIRVAN.
SECOND HALF 19veka.OVEChYa, camel hair and cotton.
AZERBAIJAN.
COLORS ALL CUSTOM RUG NATURALNYE.138h262 made by a professional TKACHAMI.SVADEBNY (dowry) VERY EXPENSIVE TO CUSTOMER.

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The second carpet KARABAKH type parrot.
1911god PODPISNOY.Kraski ALL NATURALNYE.SDELAN Highly weavers to order, as an ornament.

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Not be lazy!
Museum of Anthropology and Ethnography named after Peter the Great! (KUNSTKAMERA)

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It turns out, did not miss!

eva777 24.02.2012 13:43

VeraZili, Thank you we are very happy that they are Iranian and handmade!
Mercy!

emir 24.02.2012 15:22

Barvikha, Caucasian rugs you have shown the most interest in this topic , all antique , collectible . Even in this state, they always have the interest and demand. With them you did not miss <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 1993181)
Michael, it is quite possible that it is hand-made carpet .

Surprised , Eugene , there is not even on the stud should look to see that the old carpet and of course, handmade.

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 1994431)
I'm not questioning your statement . I am sure that you know much much more than I do in this area , the more I'm just still look to the carpets. But if we are talking about this rug , I would like you to know. This turn of the carpet as this can be considered as manual work ? and if so, what year do you about the carpet ?

Of course it is handmade , no doubt . Shirvan knitting, always very small , tight knit , rug, late 19th , early 20th century , natural colors.

wasya 15.03.2012 23:07

I am interested in color in Turkmen carpets of the postwar period . I asked him about the hand-made carpets .
For some reason, they say, that if artificial colors , the carpet is of no interest , despite the hand- tie of Turkmen carpet . However, during the Soviet era carpets were export commodity , a source of hard currency earnings . Hence , the carpets were valued in the West. I've heard that Turkmen carpets of the early 20th century, the vast majority of aniline . Maybe , carpets badly appreciated by aniline ugly ? And in the postwar Turkmen carpets aniline was replaced with a better paint?


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