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03.06.2009 13:18

Based on the fact that it was not sold at this auction, we can conclude - the buyer was well versed.

Кропоткин 03.06.2009 16:38

the question of Kiev auctions
 
Distinguished experts and connoisseurs of art!
Do you not think about the absurdity, and, most importantly, the need for the majority of the Kiev auktsionov.Serezny auction is not a conveyor and not an exhibition and sale of minor, ordinary, biased, and sometimes questionable hudozhnikov.Udivit and please collectors, make them seriously haggle and not to watch bad srezhessirovannoe show and sale of unsold, unwanted material that could only auction, which with all the responsibility will come to create their kollektsii.Auktsion-out and the auction to display exclusive and rare things that do not buy into any galleries no dealers, and even more so in the shops now living hudozhnikov.Ne seems ridiculous to you, when it comes to auction the museum's director sovremenngo art and buy a serious artist now living in Odessa, which in their funds and so, 839 units hraneniya.On them all know personally come to him in the shops and buys or accepts a commission at all for other dengi.Vse it resembles an anecdote about the new Ukrainian, who bought a suit from Brioni to 5 tys.dollarov and brags to his drugu.A he calls it idiotm because exactly the same suit he knows where you can buy for 10 tys.dollarov.Uvazhaemye gentlemen, idiots not ostalos.Uzok range of revolutionary buyers iskusstva.Vse they know what, where and how do.
We must be honest I do not priznatsya.Ya auction and exhibition-sale show with refreshments, with a singular purpose to prove that this collection has some kapitalizatsiya.No nothing better to do delat.chem ploho.Ploho, primarily for artrynka in tselom.Nash vyalenky client looks at it all gloom and thinks: all rolls downhill, no one does not need anything, let alone a chego.I even if there is something worthy, then the general background of decadence chance to adequately sell malo.Dolzhna be a mystery, behind the scenes, closure, as in Soviet times, the legend of the successful kogdahodili priobreteniyah.Togda each auction will be present in nastoyaschemusobytiem with a capital letter and pull artrynok up.

03.06.2009 22:15

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Сообщение от Kropotkin (Сообщение 415556)
should be mysterious, behind the scenes, closure, as in Soviet times, kogdahodili legend of the successful acquisitions.

Is it possible to compare the level of professional artists from Odessa are still alive was left AS Gavdzinsky and today, as you correctly identified the "minor, mediocre, biased, and sometimes controversial artists.
And the price is determined not by the authors, and those "suppliers Kiev auctions, diluting those of a quarter replica of the" iron Provenance.

Alexkorvin 04.06.2009 12:49

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Сообщение от Kropotkin (Сообщение 415556)
pleasantly surprised by collectors, make them seriously bargain, and not to watch bad srezhessirovannoe show and sale of unsold, unwanted material, one can only auction, which with all the responsibility will come to the formation of his collection.

It is hard not to rejoice for "bile" in the voice of the author, as there are a number of collectors who bought paintings at bargain prices in the shops of the authors or their relatives, with the latter and are happy with this money. Arguments with odnii and tezhe: Now is not the time, crisis, prices fell - and rejoice in it! Yes, there were at the last auction people, biting his elbows at each subsequent successful (!) Selling ... it automatically changes the prices of specific authors. I personally heard "unofficially" statements about the show sales. And when people were told who actually bought the painting, it became happy for nebestselno your time ...: D

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Сообщение от Kropotkin (Сообщение 415556)
But it is better to do nothing delat.chem ploho.Ploho, primarily for artrynka in general.

In my opinion, it is difficult to call something bad if it brought you a profit. .. You yourself, I understand, were at the auction and see how he was seen ... as were others Kiev auctions of the period ... You must properly assess the situation.
And more: many people liked the new authors, never before appearing on artrynke (well, or very rarely), but this is another plus in favor of holding such events. Not everyone can afford a personal exhibition, and here they saw ... People are good, but we are happy:)

04.06.2009 13:39

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Сообщение от Alexkorvin (Сообщение 417026)
And when people were told who actually bought the painting, it became happy for nebestselno your time ...

So tell me, or whatever you do - "please explain" who are these chela "actually bought pictures of new authors, never before appearing on the" artrynke "(well, or very rarely). In fact, because of the trivial low-level painting in Combined with adequate tsenami.Mozhet then the other "collectors series" will be happy for "nebestselno" time spent on the show ... mediocre, which in Kiev called auction.

Самвел 04.06.2009 14:56

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 417116)
So tell me, or whatever you do - "explain" who are these chela "really bought pictures of new authors, never before appearing on the" artrynke "(well, or very rarely). Really because of trivial low-level painting in combination with no adequate tsenami.Mozhet then other "collectors series" will be happy for "nebestselno" ... the time spent on the mediocre show that in Kiev called auction

any auction is market and the market is not mediocre, not the market. mediocre goods engines of the market. Postepenno.dolzhen level rise and, like any market, it must go through stages of development, just nothing happens. And the crisis is very timely, too, will put all their places. again gradually. Can you name some of these mediocre, I'm not offended if there okazhetutsya.mnoyu favorite artists?

Кирилл Сызранский 04.06.2009 15:07

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Сообщение от ArtPrizrak (Сообщение 417196)
yes, I too interested in the continuation.

I watched you, Igor, have you missed in our forum ... : D

Кирилл Сызранский 04.06.2009 15:38

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Сообщение от ArtPrizrak (Сообщение 417236)
Well I've done this Igor such that I and the registration does not ask me whether he.

It is his style of presentation is similar,
   love to see Mr Marchuk, and in your nickel I can see a hint of Igor.
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ArtGuru (Artyukh Igor, ArtExpert, Genius) banned!

04.06.2009 16:06

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 417176)
mediocre goods engines of the market.

And where did they move it - to Smetnik where blaming anyone nepotreb bought with a fool or neosvedomlennosti.A in other matters, the same drive on the mode-kaline.Naschet stages of development and levels .... Lovers invent the wheel, alas, does not decrease. So they are all stages of development. From the very square up a little. The result is that everything has already been invented - take it and do not compose. So auctions are keen to sell the best, exclusive. Accordingly, prices. Here, as already mentioned above, "complete works, which dealers for months dragged through the city and failed to sell ".....
Not my rules to publicly judge the work of artists from the pictures on the internet and annotations, listing titles and awards. Even exotic type "cavalier !???". A nomination of Odessa, the next generation, I have said above.

Кирилл Сызранский 04.06.2009 16:11

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 417336)
So at auctions tend to sell best, exclusive

That you are mistaken.

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Сообщение от VYACHESLAV (Сообщение 417336)
Here, as already mentioned above, "complete works that dealers for months dragged through the city and failed to sell ".....

That's right, failed to sell at their prices, demolished in the auction, how much will that's all right.


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