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Pavel 04.05.2012 20:48

So I did not realize to what art is lost interest. According to my information , and just all looking for the old Soviet art in the old Soviet artists of the older and more expensive .
Explain what the interest is falling ? If by Kabakov , etc., then it is natural. Only to the Soviet growth. Some special Russian art is simply no , because all the artists from the Soviet Union , even if you do not want to admit it . Those who went to a Russian is not considered .

K-Maler 04.05.2012 21:24

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But almost disappear in the Russian middle class, buy art solely for the registration of residential and led to a decline in demand for low -level art .

I can not understand why the art for " processing premises " automatically falls under the rubric of " low level ". There are genres : portrait , landscape , still life ... And there is a " big picture " in the old terminology , ie, with ideas that are of interest to society , not just the individual. For works of this division level is irrelevant .

Магнолия 05.05.2012 05:41

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low level

K, ask them: what is measured by the height of the level of roulette?

Pavel 05.05.2012 07:29

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K, ask them : what is measured by the height of the level of roulette ?

Roulette is an exact - this is the price .
I do not know about the middle class . To buy all the decorations , and therefore selected . This means a constant demand and interest. Another thing is that those who trade often with big ambitions , do not have the culture. Their interests are directed at people with more money and offer appropriate . Eggs or Kustodiev locally. I've seen and the alleged French painting . Mark Shaban example.
Loss of interest from vendors , or are the imposition of flavors?

Самвел 05.05.2012 08:49

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loss of interest from vendors , or are the imposition of taste ?

I think the loss of interest in general, not just art but also in the whole of life, was simply not interested. No community of people affected by something, who are interested , do not even have its own public. Missing some instinct to act or what? This is likely to apply to the Western countries , including Russia , although Russia is big.

Игорь Гурьев 05.05.2012 09:22

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I think the loss of interest in general, not just art but also in the whole of life , it was just not interested .

And it is also undeniable .
But such times - it is something that the periods of accumulation , and they end up over time.
We have now - the second edition of Belle Epoque , if you will .
Only in that great era of parallel living Matisse and Picasso, Kuznetsov and Sapunov , and now if the art is , in the person of his life surviving artists.
New years to be seen at all since 30.
And anyone who tries to impose , so do not get to impose something, do not have them, and that's it.

There are some good private artists (I will not name names ).
They write a good picture, and it's fine (that's right , Lucy ?) .

artcol 05.05.2012 11:54

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 2094111)
I think the loss of interest in general, not just art but also in the whole of life, was simply not interested. No community of people affected by something, who are interested , do not even have its own public. Missing some instinct to act or what? This is likely to apply to the Western countries , including Russia , although Russia is a big .

The crisis of freebies .

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And it is also undeniable .
But such times - it is something that the periods of accumulation , and they end up over time.
We have now - the second edition of Belle Epoque , if you will .
Only in that great era of parallel living Matisse and Picasso, Kuznetsov and Sapunov , and now if the art is , in the person of his life surviving artists.
New years to be seen at all since 30.
And anyone who tries to impose , so do not get to impose something, do not have them, and that's it.

There are some good private artists (I will not name names ).
They write a good picture, and it's fine (that's right , Lucy ?).

Golden Autumn.

Кирилл Сызранский 05.05.2012 14:53

article somewhere in the subject:
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It remains to note that in terms of prices, even top-end domestic artists is far from leading Western counterparts, such as Jeff Koons, Takashi Murakami and most expensive living artist Damien Hirst, whose work "For the love of God" was not so long ago sold for a record 118 million dollars. According to Michael Bode, the point here is the lack of global integration of Russian art and the fact that Russian artists are not supervised and do not sell the most powerful figures like the art Chalza Saatchi.

Chance to compete with the Western champions sales may fall to local artists who are now taking the first steps are already fixed, or their status most promising representatives of the younger generation. According to the chairman of the section of criticism in the Creative Union of Artists of Russia Alexander's Gospel, is promising all kinds. There are artists with great creativity, but not very clear market prospects, there are those who are well adapted to the domestic market, and there are candidates for prominent market position abroad. Among the young artists who can make a good career in the West, may be called Alexander Sukharev - the sole representative of Russia, which fell this year on major European exhibition of contemporary art Dosumenta. Russia has good chances to have a bright future winner of the prize. Kandinsky Taisiya Korotkov and this award nominee Anne Acorn, and the winner of "Innovation" Andrew Kuzkin. Unlike many of their peers and elders, whose place in the market has already been defined, and whose "ceiling" is more or less clear, these artists are referred to by experts as still growing, but already popular.


fross 19.05.2012 22:26

The lack of international interest in "our everything" does not prevent or interfere with the achievement of valued prices for their work and all the new auction records. What prevents contemporary artists to begin to rise at least to those prices?
The middle class does not buy - this is not true, even as purchases, but this vast interior, but it was always, at all times. What prevents middle-class education and the direction of it in the right direction?
Collectors are not left, they are afraid to show collections, collection is not prestigious, and so on - is nonsense. Open any magazine about architecture and interior design is simply not find a picture without a picture "from the collection of the owners." According to them, is simply bad form not to have his collection. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
Given the quality of what is available on the market of antique paintings and prices, from modern to collect much more profitable and more interesting, very often the contemporary works adorn the interiors. By the way I can be very interesting to see the work of some of those whom you see at the exhibitions in the residential interior. It is especially interesting when these works were created for him and, like the latest Recycle for Semenova-Gurzhiy in the May Elle Decoration.

Vladimir 19.05.2012 23:49

Fashion magazines do for the art market is much more than art history mantra.


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