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artcol 30.06.2011 20:07

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Сообщение от Olga Ozolina (Сообщение 1687091)
trying to at least do something.
And the others do not.

Well, tell me the same is what he did for the art market ...
And then walk all around it ...

Ольга Озолина 30.06.2011 21:43

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1687131)
Well, tell me the same is what he did for the art market ... And then walk all around it ...


Okay so, I will answer, even though you promised to ignore)))) Personally, I think the main thing - One feature rating. That's because he is an expert and controversial because it involves public interest. And its pouring mud just makes it more authoritative.
Another important thing: The union of artists. This is a real social security, come to us with a variety of issues, and we help as we can. Papers we have written for artists on their needs, perhaps, you can glue the globe)))
Yet it constantly feel the pressure all the creative unions, and it makes them more attentive to the problems of artists. His articles about the MOA and the PAX read, for example?
http://zagraevsky.com/rah.htm
http://zagraevsky.com/msh.htm
Another very bright personality ZAGRAEVSKY. Every word he does not fall into the void, because it attracts attention. And everything that he writes about the art market, attracting attention.
Another is that he created a unique and unique artistic style. This is our time, almost none of the artists did not succeed. And that someone does not like it, do not worry, the debate only attract viewers. I, too, many of the artists who do not like it, but I understand that in our time the very fact of creating something unique deserves great respect. And he's not written with! Have you seen his latest series - "12 months, the city of Russia," in 2011?
http://zagraevsky.com/paint_12_russia.htm

Just do not say that I was advertising))) You asked, I answered as best she could.

artcol 30.06.2011 22:00

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Сообщение от Olga Ozolina (Сообщение 1687181)
Okay so, I will answer, even though you promised to ignore)))) Personally, I think the main thing - One feature rating. That's because he is an expert and controversial because it involves public interest. And its pouring mud just makes it more authoritative.
Another important thing: The union of artists. This is a real social security, come to us with a variety of issues, and we help as we can. Papers we have written for artists on their needs, perhaps, you can glue the globe)))
Yet it constantly feel the pressure all the creative unions, and it makes them more attentive to the problems of artists. His articles about the MOA and the PAX read, for example?
http://zagraevsky.com/rah.htm
http://zagraevsky.com/msh.htm
Another very bright personality ZAGRAEVSKY. Every word he does not fall into the void, because it attracts attention. And everything that he writes about the art market, attracting attention.
Another is that he created a unique and unique artistic style. This is our time, almost none of the artists did not succeed. And that someone does not like it, do not worry, the debate only attract viewers. I, too, many of the artists who do not like it, but I understand that in our time the very fact of creating something unique deserves great respect. And he's not written with! Have you seen his latest series - "12 months, the city of Russia," in 2011?
http://zagraevsky.com/paint_12_russia.htm

Just do not say that I was advertising))) You asked, I answered as best she could.

Thanks for the reply, Olga. I thought you would bring that here every second person has made, perhaps, for the art market more than ZAGRAEVSKY. And we are their names and do not know. Whether business your boss ... :D>

Konstantin 01.07.2011 10:08

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You just do not "breathe evenly"?

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Monologue love women

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Shallow Hal ...

Dear participants of the discussion.
You get what you want, such remarks?

Termination of a conversation?

Then why come to the topic when she got bored?
Pobalagurit ...

I removed it all.

Ольга Озолина 01.07.2011 10:44

Constantine , thank you.
I see that the topic remained the same , and they come here just pobalagurit . By art market is not relevant , but I have a lack of interest in our common problems is very sad.
In general, the conversation was an excellent illustration of the fact that the art market is now happening. One does not care, others joking , others reduce the scores with each other .
I do not clear , thank you.

Pavel 01.07.2011 11:07

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Сообщение от Olga Ozolina (Сообщение 1687091)
I wonder why all the discussion on the art market eventually comes down to personality ZAGRAEVSKY ? The scale of his personality is great, of course , but not that much ? ;)> Or so already ? ;)>
This is a joke , but seriously, I really do not see another person in the Russian Federation , concerned with the art market and trying to at least do something . And the others do not.

Not for nothing about him Meiland wrote:

Zeal in color.
Talkative in the newspaper.
Draws as children.
He threw the bank and business
And now rushing like a tank -
ART -VA- BANK !

(http://zagraevsky.com/biorus.htm)

Shl. I personally like the stars, I remember his site without them, it was somehow bednovato ))) But I'm not a designer, so refrain from estimates )))

Great laugh giant thought, the father of Russian artristokratii .
And here the market, when discussing the publication and publisher are not responsible for what is published.
Maybe call similar publications overseas ?

artcol 01.07.2011 11:42

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Сообщение от Olga Ozolina (Сообщение 1687521)
to our common problems

In the farm and property in common, and common problems :D>

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Сообщение от Olga Ozolina (Сообщение 1687521)
I'm all clear, thank you.

But many already are clear :D>
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Dear Olga V.!

You have got to "milk" :)> My name is Kirill. Frankly, your transition to a "person" is somewhat puzzling, as well as your bias. Markedly and indifferent to your opuses infamous SV ZAGRAEVSKY, which you mentioned on the forums appeared under different nicknames, including "student Brewers." Well, in the direction of such a "trifle." It is better to go to that article, which recently (and she's one on Wikipedia), ruthlessly cut out "under ZAGRAEVSKY." To paraphrase you, just erase the bad links in articles on Andronicus and the Assumption in Vladimir on scientific works of Wagner, Komech, Ulyanov, and others. In addition, in the scientific world about your work known Spassky Cathedral Andronicus Monastery, while the current data architecture and archaeological research the Savior Cathedral (including radiocarbon dating) is already included in the scientific revolution. So you probably, after SV ZAGRAEVSKY, deny the existence of positiveness plinfyanogo the Savior Cathedral on the site of an existing one. And then, as you ZAGRAEVSKY rulers with an article on the Assumption Cathedral is downright discredit modern scientific knowledge and a perfect lie in the part of your assertions about the "architectural and archaeological studies of SV ZAGRAEVSKY" (?) In the Assumption Cathedral, Vladimir. Excuse me, but on such pearls in Wikipedia Alice Aksenova just laugh, because no such ZAGRAEVSKY never conducted any such studies in the Assumption Cathedral. And you should be ashamed!

A casket was opened just :)> It turns out, Olga V. Ozolina is the secretary of this very controversial type - Sergei Volfgangovicha ZAGRAEVSKY [1]! That's where her boorish arrivals and downright slander "rublevtsev." --- Kir628

You Olga V., clearly overzealous :)> good as you boss - Sergei Volfgangovich ZAGRAEVSKY, if you so hypnotized that you are dreaming povyudu debunker "zagraevschiny" - Oleg Germanovich. It's been aiming (or rather, "death metal") is Sergei ZAGRAEVSKY Moderators Vicki, that the nickname, they say, is related in some way with the famous person. Do you like it or not, but my name is Kirill, I am a professional - an architect, PhD, so I have the opportunity qualified to judge the quality of any work in the specialty .--- Kir628
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Кирилл Сызранский 01.07.2011 12:31

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 1687493)
what you want to make such remarks?

Ban for a couple of weeks.
 
At most times will be.

For the rest of the Forum and the Forum for rest from their flood.

Пелагея Ларина 01.07.2011 13:24

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Сообщение от Olga Ozolina (Сообщение 1687521)
to the art market is not relevant, but I have a lack of interest in our common problems is very sad ..

It is strange that you, dear, have not noticed that the forum has been 3 years as a professional and always discussed everything to do with the art market - and the problems and prospects of development .... And that is surprising and valuable here free and regular (not as in your union - a once a month from 12 to 17) is real information and advertising, legal, and simply human support artists.

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Сообщение от Olga Ozolina (Сообщение 1687521)
general conversation was an excellent illustration of the fact that the art market is now happening. One does not care, others joking, others reduce the scores with each other.

I would suggest that "the conversation was an excellent illustration of" do not care attitude to the fact "that the art market's going," and the lack of interest in the material that you have placed. Nothing to discuss.

And then. I've looked at your profile - for a year you have created two themes - pro and pro rating ZAGRAEVSKY article ZAGRAEVSKY ... and in any other topics you did not participate (!?) :confused:>
It is strange how something looks - does not agree with your declared interest "to our common problems" with regards to the art market. Yes, and artists abound here, the theme of which (about vital issues, for example), for some reason you do not notice too ...

After all, you are terribly far from g.Zagraevskim, from the people ...

With a sense of disappointment and an unpleasant residue, leaving your subject.
P.S. And turn off the computer, because the above example Artcol for the architecture, provokes me (and my fellow architects!) Exclusively for unflattering remarks about g.Zagraevskogo based on professional knowledge of the material. :mad:>

Ольга Озолина 01.07.2011 13:30

Artcol, if you and the history of architecture , Mr. Ulyanov remember , remember , and what I then said the man , whom you quote : I do not know who the Aksenova something to laugh , but Aksenov ( then Director and now Honorary President Vladimir- Suzdal Museum-Reserve ) actually wrote the introductory remarks to the monograph ZAGRAEVSKY :
http://www.rusarch.ru/zagraevsky24.htm

In this area ZAGRAEVSKY - a great scholar, professor and doctor of architecture, he has a lot of scientific papers.
http://www.rusarch.ru/zagraevsky.htm

Again, I do not know what relation to the art market it has. Apparently, the detractors ZAGRAEVSKY other arguments left. Soon come to the point that it suits the color is not ))))

And I remembered the saying of someone famous people: from the mouth of slander some praise is more valuable ))))


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