Not watercolor, tempera soon , so even on primed paper on cardboard (not jarred . But some have called a manner as before : all water-based paints - watercolor ... Just some of the areas more diluted with water and have a view of contemporary watercolors. But propisi visible surface and a thick layer .
Furthermore Grigoryev and canvases in many cases the temperature , it is always brighter oil paints, varnish wipe especially if ...

So what basis ?

Added after 14 minutes
The artist in this case was ordered copy. How to use it , he could not know. Make copies of museum multitudes ( to watercolor , for example does not fade ) , it is generally common museum practice . Only in the case of all legitimate recorded in museum Act.
Here it is unclear what size and technology, it is not in our watercolor understood today .

I would venture to make a small , but specific predictions:
If still preserved at least some opportunity to pull this thing " on the brakes ", it will soon be done , now to the full satisfaction of all participants stories .

Such views are not accepted waving and I do not aspire to this , but still not the first day live in the world and I easily discouraged that there is light at the nation painfully related to the fact that someone can " jump on " their in matters of sale ( so vaguely written <! - ~ 1 ~ -> !) . Well , perhaps, needless to say, criminal methods to address such issues to the practice of these people have no relationship.

So, opponents of Mr. Vasiliev certainly miscalculated in assessing its capabilities , including financial . As to the possibilities of these could say at least they mention the name Schuster (I wonder anyone could boast that more than a entree in this family ?) .
And now, if they are not complete idiots , realizing that miscalculated must admit defeat and return completely Vasiliev spent their money at the big picture , so even with a significant excess on the moral costs and attracting and Bastrykina company.

After that will be raffled off with the return of the show Lena Basner allegedly acquired a small fraction of her , of course , with tears and the sale of all of its real estate <! - ~ 1 ~ -> . Then the noble and not characterized bloodthirstiness Vasiliev declare himself fully satisfied justice is done , Basner get off probation and , to everyone's joy participants , all finally over .

Cardboard same.

Irina Waqar, Dmitry Hankin, Andrey Vasilyev and Milena Orlova discuss the situation
 

Irina Waqar , Dmitry Hankin , Andrey Vasilyev and Milena Orlova discuss charges.

[SPOILER] Source: http://tvrain.ru/articles/mongajt_su...kartin-362077/

Mongait : I have a general question to you , which I would like to ask each of you to answer . As you consider whether to blame Elena Basner ? Because today , I know , a petition was made public on the museum staff , Moscow and St. Petersburg . Piotrowski signed it .

Waqar : I think what she is accused , that is of assistance in the manufacture of fake paintings , absolutely unreal accusation. I think even a fairly absurd . But maybe this is a bug expert, which , generally speaking, he is entitled. That I can not exclude yet.

Mongait : How to distinguish false from fraud examination ?

Waqar : Knowingly False examination when the expert knows what this thing is , for example, made ​​it to a friend yesterday . Another thing, if he was fascinated by , or under the influence of some kind of emotional perception (maybe wrong ) it does not verify the provenance of the painting does not check her age, does not compare with known samples , especially if it is , we assume variations of the same composition. Then of course he is guilty, but it is not a deliberate deception , is an expert mistake.

Mongait Dmitry , do you think?

Hankin : There are formal signs in this case , which is unlikely to allow the blame Elena Basner Veniaminovna all mortal sins . It was not a party to the transaction . Since it is impossible to ask for it, she did not get the money , it seems. Either he brokered .

Mongait : The mediator may not be an interested party ?

Hankin : Mediator - the interested party . The question is whether it was party to the transaction . If so, how deep . I, too, now when we look at this story , it seems that all sewn with white thread . I heard about this story a year ago. We shortstop Vasilyev , our world is very small. But in any case, the person did not commit a violent crime , is unlikely to have to languish in the dungeon , there are other ways .

Mongait : You know, today it has redirected the home. It will house arrest.

Hankin : At least , it somehow looks like something .

Mongait : I would like to give the floor to Andrey Vasilyev. Andrew , hello , can you hear us ?

Vasilyev : Yes , I hear good evening. I am ready to answer your questions .

Mongait : That's great . Let's join .

Vasilyev : As I side of the process and the victim , I certainly believe that Elena Basner blame, but its share of guilt - because the whole story was accomplished group of individuals - can only be determined at the end of the investigation in court. Maybe she is guilty by 5%, maybe more . But certainly not 100 %. And though she is not the first violin . There are other people who are the main party. This is the first circumstance . What I would like to mention? I heard that someone from respected experts said that it is accused of making fake . That's not true . She has not been accused of making fake . She is accused that she was a participant of the chain . She was not an expert , you know what it is. Expert gives his expert opinion. Elena Veniaminovna called Mr. Shumakov and said that there is a wonderful picture of Grigorieva Leningrad good collection of old , where there are some wonderful paintings Grigorieva , and asked him whether he had a buyer for this picture. But only on condition that he did not disclose its participation in this . If it is called "expertise" , gentlemen , then Roma in the street who sell singed obviously also experts .

Hankin : So , what I'm telling you.

Vasilyev : This is the first . Second: Elena Veniaminovna received money . And there was an interesting story. Mr. Shumakov got all quite a large sum , it happened on July 11 at 12 noon. And already somewhere in 13.00 man named Aranson, which we figure remains enigmatic figure slightly virtual ( no one has ever seen , do not know it exists or not , assume that it is) , received 180 thousand dollars. 70 thousand dollars melted on the road with the Petrograd side in the city center . There's just go, but they disappeared . During this time the money was in the hands of two people - and SHumakova Basner . There was nobody else . I learned about the participation of Ms. Basner and a half years only. I do not know in what capacity while Ms. Basner took part in it : as an expert ? No. She participated as a secret member of a certain chain. I do not want to be unfounded , you can open the program " Man and Law " for October 6, 2011 . There's all said Shumakov and Basner lawyer says : "She did not act here as an expert , it was just the seller's representative ."

Mongait : Why did not you pursue Seller paintings and pursue it ? Why it is now under investigation ?

Vasilyev : I wrote a letter to the Estonian police. What does " stalking "? I did not pursue . I figured out the truth. I'm not arrested Ms. Basner , arrested her Investigative Committee . Note that last four years. All four years I act only in the legal field . I'm writing some application , I go to court , because the investigation of the district level hides documents not bring them to court , we accuse them of illegal omissions. We won , I think , five processes on illegal inaction ! Blame Elena Basner . I tried to solve the matter through civil proceedings . I filed a lawsuit to Mr. Shumakov in the hope that it will be then issue preclusion , and we can pay recourse to Ms. Basner . Do you think these gentlemen came to the court at least once ? They never came to court , never explain. You've heard the explanation once Ms. Basner for three years? I read with astonishment now on the internet after making calls to their authors to the fact that Ms. Basner should be free. I join . But why all these people were not asked four years Ms. Basner , and how you can deceive a person for such a sum , to sell fake , has just come out with an expertise center Grabar , and walk around the city , to be quite rukopozhatnoy , be a world expert ? How to think in the plane of the intelligentsia , and the decency to do it all ?

Mongait : Have you heard the version that Ms. Basner pursues mafia because of its sensational invention, which is allegedly criminal life collapses the whole clan engaged in forgery ? I can not articulate this question, because today I have heard many times about this , read the text in which this situation can be explained in this way.

Vasilyev : There is a parallel story , there are all sorts of paraotrasli , parascience . First, this whole method is called , very unclean.

Mongait : Let us recall that this method associated with the discovery of isotopes in the works since 1945 , related to the nuclear tests .

Vasilyev : If I have the opportunity not in a transmission format and in written format , write and give examples of fantastic blunders that can be evaluated as an error of this method or as deliberately deceitful actions . I wonder one thing . Just yesterday, my friend told me that he was offered in the Russian Museum to try this method , and co-author Ms. Basner , Mr. Krusanov , quietly came to the Russian Museum , where work has been put someone else and there her manipulated . I think it's more likely still persecution aliens Ms. Basner .

Mongait : How do you think why did it now Investigative Committee responded to your claim ?

Vasilyev : First, because I am what is called , the last boy scout . I set myself a challenge: to find out the truth in this story. I absolutely do not want to put Ms. Basner , believe me. When a person spits in your face for three years , I want to understand why he does it. I understand that she is an intelligent person , but hardly the only reason . I acted according to the law . First of all , I talked to her . She told me : " See you in court." I am a straightforward man . I went to the police in police custody for two weeks had a scan and said: " Here the point is clear, clean water is a scam . Farmazonstvo . " And all sent in consequence . And in consequence kidding me throughout the year. And I gave them to court . Water wears away the stone . I wrote a letter Medinsky because clear to me how it all happened . Medinsky has had a letter , obviously, some action : Well , let's institute proceedings . Case filed , police handed over to GSM . And it zalesh " gasoline " using kakih-nibud petitions, complaints , it works , while " petrol " is not going to end , then it goes to sleep . Everything is there sufficient grounds to refer the matter to court. But since they have suspended it , I saw in the newspaper (it is the story of a film, how to live correctly) announcement that takes Bastrikin citizens. Signed up , got to the reception , told this story .

Mongait : a Miracle .

Vasiliev But miracles do happen . I swear , without cronyism got there .

Mongait : I have one last question to you . Fakes on the market Russian avant-garde meet not just regularly, and more than regularly. Why do you think in this case it was possible to have a case for an art critic for the intermediary transaction ? Why these cases is so surprising enough?

Vasilyev : Forget the word "expert" . She did not speak here as an expert. Please.

Mongait : Even in the case of intermediaries in transactions involving counterfeit works.

Vasilyev : Explain. None of this would not have happened if not for one thing : a job that is in the Russian Museum , never exhibited , never been played , she got to the store Russian Museum and lay there . Now I'll tell you an interesting thing : when I bought it at SHumakova you remember that he did not utter the name of Basner , he uttered the name of General Timofeev , whom I knew well, this doctor - psychiatrist . But he said the name Savanovich Julia . She really saw this picture in Basner . She is curator of drawings. She did not know that this thing has in her department . Basner - let's believe it , I want to believe her , I am very sorry and sympathize with - did not know too. Moreover, Tamara Galeeva , the author of a monograph on Grigoriev , which made it just in the 2000s , came to St. Petersburg. She provided by the inventory and catalog all the drawings and paintings Grigorieva . She was not given the job. This kind of mysticism , you know ! About this job nobody knew or associated with this work, a mysterious story. I have no explanation for this . Basner thus described the job. Whatever she may say there , I saw something documents . Cyrus B. Okuneva before his death was a detailed list of all the works of his father , along with a collection Levitin . This list all things were to be transferred to the Russian Museum . Took them from the Russian Museum Basner and people with the surname type Ignatenko , restorer ( something like that ) . I'll tell you that no one heard : Filonov "Hunters " from the same collection appeared on the market over time. Is now in St Petersburg's famous meeting. I know who sold it . You too can guess .

Mongait : This is a dangerous accusation. Especially in ether.

Vasilyev : Yes ? I express it . Another charge . From the same collection Lebedev, which I offered to buy Leonid Shumakov . This is not an accusation . About all these facts to me was the statement separately . But because many years have passed , and that, fifth - tenth , one will not do it . I'll do it. I'll write a little book or something like that .

Mongait : You have heard that said Andrey Vasilyev .

Waqar : I heard . Several reasons I can think of . First of all , ever heard " made ​​examination , it appeared that it was a fake ." Where this examination ? Who did it ? Very dear Grabar Center ? You know how many times I have as an expert opinion at odds with the center Grabar ? You know how many times we happened that chemists center Grabar find any titanium dioxide , and our chemists are not . Other equipment , and there is not. I have not seen that picture , which was bought by Andrey Vasilyev . He said , in my opinion , completely unacceptable in the tone of the method , which has developed Andriy Krusanov , highly respected art historian, rarest , who created the " History of the Russian avant-garde" , which we now use as a first reference. I do not understand in chemistry and physics , let me forgive , but I look like an expert at work, and if I doubt it, or vice versa, do not doubt it, and say that it must be attributed to Krusanov , I never there was no case to divergent views . It's just my experience . If Andrey Vasilyev knows the case when we are together with Krusanov confirmed some gaffe , as he says , that he will present it to me . I find it very interesting , because I use other methods of examination. I work mostly in the team, with his colleagues , and I assure you that it somehow , perhaps miraculously , but absolutely confirms our intuition.

Mongait : You are talking about the method . A charge that pushes against Vasiliev Elena Basner ?

Waqar : I can not speak on the merits , when I saw two pictures next - painting , which he had bought , and a picture that is in the Russian Museum. For us , the museum staff , the most important method , the only true method - to put things close . While it is not until there is a constant secrecy , reticence . We do not see even the examination , actually . Who signed expertise as an art ? I do not know . Where such art , which we can take a word , it's a fake ?

Mongait : This does not say here , but later examination was made by the Russian Museum . Apparently , the comparative examination of the two works. How this scandal discredits Institute experts and museum system?

Waqar : He can not discredit the museum system. Just before I go to you, we speculated with colleagues, if we have all the expert community . Most likely, it is not.

Mongait : discredit nothing.

Waqar : Experts are very fragmented . Everyone lives their own, except, perhaps , of our department , a group that works together . And basically , the experts - strange people . Sometimes it is very respected person , of whom you know , love , appreciate , and which do you think is a lovely man , suddenly making expertise. You read it and think: " No, I think quite differently ." There must be some special talent , some special responsibility , some special intuition, even mood. Sometimes it happens that one expert a good mood it seems that this original, but in a bad mood - it seems fake.

Mongait : It's catastrophic recognition , no?

Hankin : No, why? Normal recognition. We are faced with this .

Mongait : For the same cost huge sums of money.

Hankin : Usually. Nothing to worry about.

Mongait : Like " nothing wrong "?

Hankin : What to do now ?

Waqar : Because apart from expert opinion is necessary to know the provenance of all these technological times . And do not spend one examination , but several different methods.

Hankin : Agree with this. Buyer must be careful . This is taught from the beginning. And do not take anything for granted. But I know Vasilyeva ago, he was a man very meticulous, very simply . As a man , the victim at different times from different injustices , I do not think it is driven by the desire of some bloodthirsty seat . No, of course . This is a story about the struggle for justice. I'm sure he was trying to resolve this out of court, not leading to the investigation.

Mongait : But there 's the problem of irresponsibility experts?

Hankin : We have agreed not to pass on personalities .

Mongait : I'm not suggesting you should switch personalities .

Hankin : there are mistakes , there are deliberate skimping true.

Waqar : Sometimes the expert makes a mistake when he feels very confident.

Mongait : Or in a bad mood , I already knew .

Hankin : In the terrible catastrophe fall very confident drivers .

Mongait : I would like to join our conversation Milena Orlova , chief editor of the authoritative art edition The Art Newspaper Russia, and to hear her opinion as a disinterested party.

Hankin : We're not interested .

Mongait : You still expert, you gallerist and Andrey Vasilyev - the victim .

Orlov : I have , unfortunately, can not see , I hope you see me . Good evening. We tested all the time articles about what is happening in the art world , the constant scandals associated with counterfeiting. Very long stretches scandal with such a lady named Glaphira Rosales , who managed somehow to deceive so many experts. I did not hear the beginning of your discussion , but I stand firm on the fact that there is such a thing as a mistake, but not a criminal . Indeed, everyone can make mistakes. The saddest thing is that even questioned the profession expert.

Hankin : Unaffected .

Waqar : It can not be subjected .

Orlov : I believe that even if the judge made ​​a mistake , and even if wrong by design , anyway, he is an expert. It's such a special profession , such people are very few who understand anything in the art , to be honest . This " piece goods ".

Hankin : I do not agree with what sounded from the lips of Milena , because I want all of you to return to the conversation Vasilyeva that it was not an expert error . It 's not the point . It's about business expert.



























How much ? No one knows.







Everything is possible .















Clear.

Throughout this unpleasant and difficult history , Mr. Vasiliev looks " white " : he just - he says truth. Tells it like it is. And, of course , his insistence on this matter in an amicable and even surprised me personally admires.

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Is to ///ZHD still closed down ?

In all this story see only one-to enrich all good.

 Seeing an easy way to cash in expert instantly ceases to be an expert and acts as a simple intermediary, one of a chain of " naduvateley suckers ." True prudently trying to conceal their involvement in the deal ... That , this time , failed. Shyla sooner or later gets out of the bag . We will see what it will end .

Still unclear what specific basis , specifically each painting . Here and write " web" - the picture . About the schedule so can not be expressed . And what size ? If large , then it is understandable - the picture on the cardboard and then this temperature . Gouache would be to spoil it as watercolor, on the reversible colloid - ie diluted with water ( temperature does not get divorced , she is very strong ) .
It is also not an idle question because it has to copy. She made ​​what and what ? What may be the question : copy theoretically can not be on the same in composition , cardboard ... ? ? ?
About checking " luminescent " and the problematic of this method , see MV Farmakovsky " Watercolor " (published , incidentally, Belt 50 - year) , he studied the question.
And about the " after the bomb " that even more beautiful ... here A.Vasilyev rights.

For illiterate TV reporters and such, alas, most any picture - "fabric" so prettier, they believe.

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Bringing art to the people

They are willing to take

Vintage fabric.
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In online videos posted from the courtroom - visible picture is very similar , the size is 60x80 , under glass and cardboard, ie - Graphics, gouache on similar too , but rather the temperature with the addition of white gouache ( there are divorces, what temperature does not give one ) .
But who among the "experts" came up about this work say that she was found in a garage in Vsevolozhsk ( ie in the region , in a wet climate of our unheated room ) .... She would be there rotted , warped and swollen layer of paint ...
Elena Basner looked good , tasteful and dressed , but the view , of course, humorless ...

Case Basner will be multiple parts?

The site MK , photo Expertise Basnerand opposite GosNIIR Examinations , laboratory technical expertise "Art Kolsalting ", Institute of Geology and Geochronology, Russian Academy of Sciences .

"MK" has learned that the art historian to have a claim not only on canvas " The restaurant "

In St. Petersburg, develops loud criminal scandal known critic Elena Basner accused of fraud on a large scale . The reason - the canvas, which collector Andrey Vasilyev bought as avant-garde work by Boris Grigoriev , " restaurant ", in practice it turned out fake. When Vasilyev found that he had been deceived by $ 250,000 ( cost so much " dummy" ) , decided to find out at any cost . Footprints led to Basner . However, as found "MK" , no one holds a grudge against Vasiliev eminent expert. There are other collectors , who by the grace of the daughter of the famous composer became owners of fakes.

 Painting " restaurant " only in details from the original size of the Russian Museum.
Variant of nothingness

Before moving on to other " episodes " related to falsification of art and the name of the former employee of the Russian Museum , art critic Elena Basner , dot the «i» in Vasiliev.

Only listed in Article episodes - a different order:

buy a fake brokered Basner - buy a fake with expertise Basner - buy a fake auction, where he works Basner

"Museum expertise", "international expert"? Funny to read, rudeness, undisguised greed, ashamed of these "experts."

I believe that if the judge does not set a date for its conclusion that this is an indirect indication of any fraud .
This kind of action is always allows the court to declare that the examination is issued in a period that allows you to shirk responsibility.
All examination Fable that rassmativayutsya lately - Sarian Sapunoff and many other - not dated .
Just by the way, as the so-called "troika" of the Russian Museum .

Let me also express my opinion :
Basner judged not for their expertise , and for mediation. Ie consequence of including go to court and to the prior art - Preobrazhensky case .
And the reaction of the expert community - Eligibility: who is not a mediator - that 's not my fault !
But as for the examination , in my opinion , Basner - not the worst expert in your field . I probably do not need to say here that there are some experts from the " household name " - their signature on the positive expertise is a red flag ! And yet write and write examination, and even published a monograph ...
Now, if brought a criminal case of fraud in connection with obviously false expert opinion - and then sanction would be smaller , and the community would finally ! Conceived ...