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Zivye hudozniki?

Posted 26-02-2010 at 10:11 by AlexanderG
Updated 26-02-2010 at 10:32 by AlexanderG

Smotrel segodnia temu Kompromiss 2.
Zamechatel'no.

Peter postavil vopros, chto by delali dillery, esli by ne bylo hudoznikov.
Hochu nemnogo vopros pereinachit ', i sprovotsirovat' diskussiiu.

A vot esli by vse segodnia zivuschie hudozniki umerli /ischezli /rastvorilis'.
Postradal by art rynok?

Esli by u /i /r vse dillery i galeristy - rynok by na kakoe-to vremia ischez, a potom vozrodilsia by snova.

A esli by bol'she nikogda ni odnoi kartiny ne bylo napisano, to rynku eto by ne pomeshalo.

Ochen 'interesno uslyshat' otvety .
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  1. Old Comment
    iside's Avatar
    If all living artists are gone, well, or would even stop writing new paintings, they would have millions more pictures that need someone to sell the first time, millions - to resell on the secondary market, I think would be the only positive effect - the market is oversaturated proposal
    Posted 26-02-2010 at 12:37 by iside iside is offline
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    they would have millions more pictures that need someone to sell the first time, millions - to resell on the secondary market, I think would be the only positive effect - the market is oversaturated proposal
    Spasibo i nadeius' nas ne zakliiut za takoe svobodomyslie .

    Kogda ia pytaius' predstavit 'kolichestvo uze proizvedionnyh kartin, za ves' period deiatel'nosti chelovechestva, volosy dybom vstaiut! Daze ne mogu sebe predstavit 'takuiu tsifru.

    Uveren, raboty hvatin na vseh dilerov i galeristov
    Posted 26-02-2010 at 12:52 by AlexanderG AlexanderG is offline
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    nadeius' nas ne zakliiut za takoe svobodomyslie .
    They peck, because they themselves can not be their "masterpieces" to sell
    Posted 26-02-2010 at 13:30 by iside iside is offline
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    Uveren, chto bol'shinstvo hudoznikov, prosto, ne ponimaiut kto-est'-kto. Ia daze razrabotal spetsial'nyi seminar na etu temu.

    A mozet tak slozilos' ottogo, chto vysokokvalifitsirovannyh art menedzerov malo.

    A esli vspomnit ', 5-7 let nazad, serioznyi debat "voina muzeev", to eto tak ze ob'iasniaet mnogoe.
    Posted 26-02-2010 at 14:24 by AlexanderG AlexanderG is offline
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    Uveren, chto bol'shinstvo hudoznikov, prosto, ne ponimaiut kto-est'-kto.
    Yes, it is. Somehow, many, especially in the mediocre quite exceptional view of themselves and their work.

    Here Pavel as once wrote on the forum - I was just a great artist . Here, no seminars do not help, even special
    Posted 26-02-2010 at 15:06 by iside iside is offline
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    Byvaet !
    Posted 26-02-2010 at 15:08 by AlexanderG AlexanderG is offline
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    If you have gone all gallery owners (like dinosaurs), the process of establishing cultural values have not been interrupted, and in artists' studios were to turn on zapisi.Nu since deceased artist can not paint a portrait say new prezidenta.Esli disappear artists, the gallery will benefit from greater reserve now unmarketable-rise prices for longer hvatit.No to last about nedolgo.Zhivaya artistic tradition is broken, then the masses may not understand the language zhivopisi.On will be forgotten and unknown, as are languages of ancient tribes and narodnostey.Galereyschikam have to go to the superintendent.
    Posted 26-02-2010 at 18:25 by Peter Peter is offline
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    artcol's Avatar
    Purely hypothetical situation.
    With each step of the NTP prom.proizvodstvo less and less in need of people. Hidden unemployment will increase the count so-called "artists" and representatives dr.tvorcheskih professions. If they iseznut - nothing will change. But if you disappear real artists, I think we noticed it.
    Posted 26-02-2010 at 20:18 by artcol artcol is offline
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    Zivye hudozniki?

    [B]A vot esli by vse segodnia zivuschie hudozniki umerli /ischezli /rastvorilis'.
    Postradal by art rynok?
    [/B]
     In my opinion, artrynok would hurt ... and very .. Why? First of all, because a lot of unknown artists are not promoted ... not marked merit ... maybe so leave remained unknown ... And then .. OPENING! NEW NAMES!.
    Posted 27-02-2010 at 00:14 by Pecheneg Pecheneg is offline
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    If all the gallery owners have disappeared (like dinosaurs), then the process of establishing cultural values have not been interrupted, and in artists' studios were to turn on the record.

    Tak vy otkroite takuiu temu i obsudim. Ia predlozil chisto gipoteticheskuiu situatsiiu .

    Well, since deceased artist can not paint a portrait say the new president.

    Nyneshnie tehnologii pozvoliaiut sdelat 'eto i bez hudoznika, v liubom stile, formate itd.

    If artists disappear, it will benefit the gallery with a large margin today's non-liquid-rise prices for longer hvatit.No to last for long.

    Dumaiu eto mozet dlit'sia vechno. Kartin proizvedeno bolee chem dostatatochno na mnogo pokolenii vperiod.

    Living artistic tradition is broken, then the masses may not understand the language zhivopisi.On will be forgotten and unknown, as are languages of ancient tribes and nationalities.

    Nu i kto stradaet ot uteri etih iazykov? Nichego ne proizoshlo.

    Gallery owners have to go to the superintendent.
    Net, ne priidiotsia, oni vse budut schastlivo rabotat 'na vtorichnom rynke .
    Posted 27-02-2010 at 09:44 by AlexanderG AlexanderG is offline
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    purely hypothetical situation.
    With each step of the NTP prom.proizvodstvo less and less in need of people. Hidden unemployment will increase the count so-called "artists" and representatives dr.tvorcheskih professions. If they iseznut - nothing will change. But if you disappear real artists, I think we noticed it.
    Soglasen polnost'iu, postindustrial'noe obschestvo predpolagaet vzryv kolichetstva "creatives" i pereraspredelenie kolichestva liudei zaniatyh v proizvodstve obraztsov.

    S vnedreniem implantirovannyh mikrochipov, vozmozno budet sozdavat 'liubye illiuzii v mozge. Kartin daze i ne nuzno, vsio zaprogammirovano.
    Posted 27-02-2010 at 09:48 by AlexanderG AlexanderG is offline
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    Zivye hudozniki?

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     In my opinion, artrynok would hurt ... and very .. Why? First of all, because a lot of unknown artists are not promoted ... not marked merit ... maybe so leave remained unknown ... And then .. OPENING! NEW NAMES !!!.
    A mozet byt 'i net. Seichas gorazdo bol'she neraskruchennyh, chem raskruchennyh. Obrazovals' by pauza, i mnogie pokoleniia kuratorov, iskusstvovedov (dillerov) byli by pri dele.

    Predstav'te sebe kolichestvo hudoznikov segodnia, esli v Au ih 250.000 av USA3, 5 mln.

    Pomnozte na desitka tri pokolenii i. .. Voobrazenie igraet ?
    Posted 27-02-2010 at 09:53 by AlexanderG AlexanderG is offline
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    A mozet byt 'i net. Seichas gorazdo bol'she neraskruchennyh, chem raskruchennyh.
    It seems to me, along with an excess of supply, there is also a decrease in demand, Alexander - you have accurate information about this or thoughts?
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    S vnedreniem implantirovannyh mikrochipov, vozmozno budet sozdavat 'liubye illiuzii v mozge. Kartin daze i ne nuzno, vsio zaprogammirovano.
    Matrix has you ... Knock-knock ...
    Posted 27-02-2010 at 12:48 by iside iside is offline
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    I think, along with an excess of supply, there is also a decrease in demand, Alexander - you have accurate information about this or thoughts?

    Est 'mnogo informatsii po Au. Ia kak-to na forume pytalsia vyisnit 'skol'ko hudoznikov v Ru i eschio kakie-to tsifry, no otveta ne bylo nikakogo.

    Matrix has you ... Knock-knock ...
    'iasniaiut
    V USA uze nachali. Nosit 'nichego ne nado budet; ni proezdnyh, ni kreditnyh kartochek, pohititeliam budet sloznee - eto ni tak ob'iasniaiut
    Posted 27-02-2010 at 13:59 by AlexanderG AlexanderG is offline
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    Soglasen polnost'iu, postindustrial'noe obschestvo predpolagaet vzryv kolichetstva "creatives" i pereraspredelenie kolichestva liudei zaniatyh v proizvodstve obraztsov.

    S vnedreniem implantirovannyh mikrochipov, vozmozno budet sozdavat 'liubye illiuzii v mozge. Kartin daze i ne nuzno, vsio zaprogammirovano.
    Cheery theme, even apocalyptic ...
    I have some thoughts on the subject, but not yet in the system. R is very big and interesting. I think in tech.let 5 in my head that something will mature and will be the theoretical basis for practical action
    Posted 28-02-2010 at 10:16 by artcol artcol is offline
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    Cheery topic, even apocalyptic ...
    I have some thoughts on the subject, but not yet in the system.
    A u menia est 'priiatel', kotoryi soglasen hot 'sgodnia !!
    Posted 28-02-2010 at 14:56 by AlexanderG AlexanderG is offline
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    A u menia est 'priiatel', kotoryi soglasen hot 'sgodnia !!
    Well mb he sees the benefit in this for the borough. I have no
    But in fact - is a collar
    Posted 01-03-2010 at 12:24 by artcol artcol is offline
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    Well mb he sees the benefit in this for the borough. I have no
    But in fact - is a collar
    Ia etogo toze terpet 'ne mogu. Ia navernoe edinstvennyi v Au bez mobil'nogo telefona
    Posted 01-03-2010 at 13:37 by AlexanderG AlexanderG is offline
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    Ia etogo toze terpet 'ne mogu. Ia navernoe edinstvennyi v Au bez mobil'nogo telefona
    Cool!
    Once in an interview given characteristic N. Mikhalkov: "This gentleman does not know anything is money and is not in a Mobile Phone? Well, I asked, about the phone, such as: the master without the phone - "backward" (c) Borat Sagadiyev something, shuns technology? No, they say, he has a special man, walking behind him everywhere with mobile, feeds, when you call, number dials. I thought Secretary - so only in the office, and this only in the movies, an no - there unikomy
    Posted 01-03-2010 at 14:48 by artcol artcol is offline
  20. Old Comment
    Net predela sovershenstvu !!
    Ochen 'ponravilos'.
    Posted 01-03-2010 at 15:08 by AlexanderG AlexanderG is offline
 



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