Fruits of the Georgian war.
Posted 11-08-2009 at 12:33 by Кирилл Сызранский
of the victor countries.
Vitaly Portnikov.
The anniversary of the Russo-Georgian conflict in Moscow and Tbilisi to show similar words - statements that the opposing side has long been preparing for war and continues to prepare for its repetition. For this weary promotional husk is difficult to discern important - the consequences of the war to Moscow and Tbilisi.
At first glance, everything is clear. Russia won, Georgia lost. Moscow has not only helped the Ossetians and Abkhazians to maintain the status quo, but also contributed to the increment granted independence - under their control transferred some territory before the war, subordinate to Tbilisi. But the restoration of the territorial integrity of Georgia itself postponed indefinitely, if not forever. Mikhail Saakashvili was adequately punished, and with it the whole Georgian people - cheer, do not vote for NATO.
But the question arises: what next? Stunned predictable victory in the conflict - and how could it be otherwise, who believed that in frontal crashes Georgia to defeat Russia? - Moscow has decided to go for broke in the literal sense of the word "punish" not only Georgia, but the Americans who have dared to recognize Kosovo's independence, and their allies.
Recognition of Kosovo's independence - certainly controversial decision. But only by recognizing the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, Russia has found itself in a brilliant diplomatic isolation - a situation in Moscow last encounter except that during the Finnish War, when Stalin decided to establish a puppet government in Terioki Otto Kuusinen. The independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia a year admitted only the Government of Nicaragua, has refused, however, to establish diplomatic relations with the republics. And this reluctance to follow its lead, displayed almost all the allies of Russia, eloquently demonstrated - in fact, Russia has no allies, no.
The independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia is not recognized nor Belarus, which used to be regarded as a faithful follower of all the Kremlin's madness, or Armenia, which the authorities could at least try to exchange the recognition of Georgia's autonomous regions to the recognition of Karabakh's independence, nor the countries of Central Asia. In short, if Moscow wanted to come up with a decision, illustrating Russia's foreign policy of isolation and failure, it is better than the recognition of independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, they would not have been able to find.
Another impressive result was the triumph of the very corruption, which just a year ago, promised to fight the country's president, Dmitry Medvedev winning. The symbol of this corruption was precisely the restoration of South Ossetia. Just before the anniversary of the government of the republic was again replaced, and once again counting on the fact that the new prime minister will spend money on restoring the appointment and they will not disappear before the eyes of those living in the ruins of the residents. Of course, in Russia in general, so build and rebuild, but then in Russia. And here you can compare even with the pace of recovery in the Gori district on the other side of the cordon.
Of course, Saakashvili adversary and U.S. hireling, but need not to steal on the restoration of South Ossetia does not abolish it. And besides, there is no answer to the question that will make Moscow recognized for its republics, where economic crisis has put the issue squarely on the future financing of their existence. A good reason to think about the prospects of relations between Russia and the breakaway Georgian autonomies.
For the loser is the Georgian war has become rather a moment of truth, than the moment of defeat. It is always better time to get rid of illusions. Georgians were convinced that the question of the future of the territorial unity of the country has no military solution. What the president - no miracle worker, and not even a great statesman, but an ordinary civil servant, who tend to hover in the clouds and live their own, often unrealistic notions about their opportunities and possibilities of their small country.
Perhaps the Georgians eventually realize that to solve the problem of the future coexistence with Abkhazia and South Ossetia, they will be able only if the build attractive rich state. If such a state existed today, its citizens - despite all the national controversy - would be many residents of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. So Georgia has to aspire to, what to think, that changed. There are stories in the situation where the most dangerous country to be victorious.
http://www.grani.ru/Politics/World/E.../m.155152.html
Vitaly Portnikov.
The anniversary of the Russo-Georgian conflict in Moscow and Tbilisi to show similar words - statements that the opposing side has long been preparing for war and continues to prepare for its repetition. For this weary promotional husk is difficult to discern important - the consequences of the war to Moscow and Tbilisi.
At first glance, everything is clear. Russia won, Georgia lost. Moscow has not only helped the Ossetians and Abkhazians to maintain the status quo, but also contributed to the increment granted independence - under their control transferred some territory before the war, subordinate to Tbilisi. But the restoration of the territorial integrity of Georgia itself postponed indefinitely, if not forever. Mikhail Saakashvili was adequately punished, and with it the whole Georgian people - cheer, do not vote for NATO.
But the question arises: what next? Stunned predictable victory in the conflict - and how could it be otherwise, who believed that in frontal crashes Georgia to defeat Russia? - Moscow has decided to go for broke in the literal sense of the word "punish" not only Georgia, but the Americans who have dared to recognize Kosovo's independence, and their allies.
Recognition of Kosovo's independence - certainly controversial decision. But only by recognizing the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, Russia has found itself in a brilliant diplomatic isolation - a situation in Moscow last encounter except that during the Finnish War, when Stalin decided to establish a puppet government in Terioki Otto Kuusinen. The independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia a year admitted only the Government of Nicaragua, has refused, however, to establish diplomatic relations with the republics. And this reluctance to follow its lead, displayed almost all the allies of Russia, eloquently demonstrated - in fact, Russia has no allies, no.
The independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia is not recognized nor Belarus, which used to be regarded as a faithful follower of all the Kremlin's madness, or Armenia, which the authorities could at least try to exchange the recognition of Georgia's autonomous regions to the recognition of Karabakh's independence, nor the countries of Central Asia. In short, if Moscow wanted to come up with a decision, illustrating Russia's foreign policy of isolation and failure, it is better than the recognition of independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, they would not have been able to find.
Another impressive result was the triumph of the very corruption, which just a year ago, promised to fight the country's president, Dmitry Medvedev winning. The symbol of this corruption was precisely the restoration of South Ossetia. Just before the anniversary of the government of the republic was again replaced, and once again counting on the fact that the new prime minister will spend money on restoring the appointment and they will not disappear before the eyes of those living in the ruins of the residents. Of course, in Russia in general, so build and rebuild, but then in Russia. And here you can compare even with the pace of recovery in the Gori district on the other side of the cordon.
Of course, Saakashvili adversary and U.S. hireling, but need not to steal on the restoration of South Ossetia does not abolish it. And besides, there is no answer to the question that will make Moscow recognized for its republics, where economic crisis has put the issue squarely on the future financing of their existence. A good reason to think about the prospects of relations between Russia and the breakaway Georgian autonomies.
For the loser is the Georgian war has become rather a moment of truth, than the moment of defeat. It is always better time to get rid of illusions. Georgians were convinced that the question of the future of the territorial unity of the country has no military solution. What the president - no miracle worker, and not even a great statesman, but an ordinary civil servant, who tend to hover in the clouds and live their own, often unrealistic notions about their opportunities and possibilities of their small country.
Perhaps the Georgians eventually realize that to solve the problem of the future coexistence with Abkhazia and South Ossetia, they will be able only if the build attractive rich state. If such a state existed today, its citizens - despite all the national controversy - would be many residents of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. So Georgia has to aspire to, what to think, that changed. There are stories in the situation where the most dangerous country to be victorious.
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Well, in this logic a lot of things you can imagine. For example - If Russia has a rich and attractive, then it will and Ossetia and Georgia.Quote:Perhaps the Georgians eventually realize that to solve the problem of the future coexistence with Abkhazia and South Ossetia, they will be able only if the build attractive rich state. If such a state existed today, its citizens - despite all the national controversy - would be many residents of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
I've been in Georgia and in Abkhazia in the USSR and even then I was surprised by the hostility of Abkhazia to Georgia. As part of a strong (totalitarian) state all this suppressed (as in Iraq), as well as the state eased immediately and was manifested in the form of civil war.Posted 11-08-2009 at 15:33 by Konstantin 
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Russian and German Fascism
Cooperation of NKVD and Gestapo! The second evil won, the first rule of Russia! [url]http://www.gulag.ipvnews.org/article20061225.php[/url]Posted 11-08-2009 at 21:51 by Leo
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Who is our friends and enemies
12 SEPTEMBER 2009
Leonid Radzikhovsky
Results of voting at the UN General Assembly on the resolution, proposed by Georgia on the return of refugees, it is very revealing.
Test attitude - of course, not to Abkhazia and Ossetia, Yuri, of which most of the world know exactly what to Yu Ossetia know about Solomon Islands and Suriname. And not to Georgia, about which they know (and who are interested in) a little more. This is a test of attitude toward Russia, its politics. Test for relevance to the United States. And, of course, test the attitude of separatism.
The results are known: a resolution that recognizes Abkhazia and Ossetia, Yuri "in parts of Georgia" adopted.
48 countries - in favor, 19 - "against", 78 - "abstained", 47 did not participate in the voting (ie "abstained on the fact").
Georgia believes it - and rightly so - for his victory. Now they can rely on the UN resolution, although, like most resolutions, it is not required for execution, and apparently no one "executed" would not.
The United States is much less reason to rejoice. The resolution - but most of Georgia and the United States - voted in favor of "old guard", all EU countries. Anglo-Saxons - Canada, Australia, New Zealand. In addition to them of "serious" countries - Azerbaijan, Chile, Ukraine, Japan.
Not bad ... Everything seemed in place. But - "no spark". In any case, surprises, new acquisitions - no. However, it is clear that the U.S. Georgia has a great resolution does not work - Georgia U.S. interests around the same extent as Russia - Iraq ...
For Russia it was a matter of principle. Clearly, the resolution to anything anyone does not oblige, but it is - a thermometer that measures the influence of Russia in the world. So, Russia has created a front consisting of Algeria, Armenia, Belarus, Bolivia (about, Morales!), Cuba, North Korea, Ecuador, Ethiopia, India (!), Iran, Laos, Myanmar, Nicaragua, Sri Lanka, Syria, Venezuela, Vietnam and Zimbabwe.
Jewel in the crown, naturally - India (my apologies to the audience Ekho Moskvy: "an elephant's what I did not notice!". The latest dissenting opinion, expressed his "particular view" that India was neutral. Yes, that is -- MY "dissenting opinion." But not in India!). What they fly their bites? Have their TERRIBLE separatists. To put it mildly, "independent" country, but in fact - one of the most powerful countries in the world. Oh, under Russia's tune is not exactly dancing ... Then - some of their games ... With whom? Well, not with Georgia, probably! In the U.S., apparently.
In India, there is no one boast of Russia. Among large countries, Russia has supported Iran - well, that's obviously to the delight of the U.S. and pro-American Georgia. More ... Eternal carts - kind of a parody is not that the Comintern, not that the "Soviet bloc" 1970 ... The only difference is that the Soviet bloc countries still faced the Soviet Union at attention, but these are not simply stand "at ease", but some people and powerful hand of Russia slaps on the back: "Do not be afraid, sparrow, with us not get lost!". And clapping Commandante Chavez hardly deliver a great psycho-physical pleasure ...
Abstentions (there too and neprishedshie). China. Pakistan. All the major Arab countries - Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iraq (that's you and the American occupation!) ... By the way, for those Muslim countries not to support "Yet Muslims against Christians in Abkhazia in Georgia - the uncommon. Next - ISRAEL! There's a staunch U.S. ally (by the way, and Georgia!). No, obviously not in vain Netanyahu flew to Moscow, and Putin is not in vain the question "What do you know about the visit of Netanyahu?" Answered the question "Have you?". Something is wrong here ... But the more - silence. Next - Turkey! Here you and member of NATO! "A party discipline, comrade, it is you that - hell walrus!". It turns out that way ... But if Turkey recognized the "Turkish Cyprus" (and incidentally, neither of whom did not want to support), then she could not vote for the Georgian resolution. Well, and the resulting - neutrality. Finally, the main Latin American countries - Brazil, Argentina, who have a clear sense of - no, not to Russia and not to the United States, but only to the Morales-Chavez ...
That's a grand game of patience.
He would be incomplete if we did not mention the main thing DEFEAT OF RUSSIA.
No longer the Pyrenees! "(Louis XIV). No more CIS! Precisely - there is no dominance of Russia in the CIS.
"For" Russia - Belarus and Armenia. Well here is simple - gas, old gas. And once more gas!
"Against" Russia - Ukraine and Azerbaijan. Yes, Ukraine's position can be explained by Yushchenko - now go away, then we'll see (as in Venezuela: Chavez will leave here, then we'll see!). Azerbaijan's position is clear - Karabakh! But Azerbaijan could abstain. But he did not desist. And straight, roughly showed that FROM RUSSIA independent.
And most importantly - ALL countries of Central Asia, from Kazakhstan, "and below" (including TAJIKISTAN! Arrived. Ужос ...) neutral! .. In this situation, not to be "for Russia", then show independence from Russia. Where have turned their heads, if not to Russia? Maybe - to China?
Adieu, CIS, and for one and the SCO and the CSTO! Specifically, the SCO may have an entirely different meaning - a mechanism CHINESE dominance. "Dominance" - on whom? I do not over whether Russia?
And in general - bewitched! Long-Moscow sweetly sang about "multipolar world" - sang ... Here it is for the U.S., the scale of the ball, and Russia - on the scale of the CIS! All on a long leash, and he unbuttoned his safety strap ... All countries cram "freedom, equality, fraternity" - and the latter is particularly disgusting when no one admits to his younger brother.
I do not know how to live comfortably in a multipolar world, the U.S. (I think not too much), but Russia digest it obviously can not - although trying to turn into a grimace of disgust smiley, to the same Central Asia.
In the end, if you take seriously the paradigm of multi-polarity-equality, then WHAT'S SPEECH AT ALL! What should we then care about Georgia and Ukraine? We have no "special rights" in a multipolar CIS, and our "special interests" between us and interested. Then all the conflicts sucked from the finger - but then all the goals and concepts must be changed.
Just dropping ostochertevshuyu people "internationalist rhetoric" straightened to his full Imperialist GROWTH - and then all shlopnulos ... burst seams, buttons, hail, and in general - "is no longer wear.
However, as the imperial ointment (which is the irony of history), remain to us the most Abkhazia and Ossetia, Yu ... 'younger brother ordered? Sign here! "
"What the hell he brought me to this gallery!" Ambition, pride ... But how long can you play in a meaningless game obviously, spending money and influence ... actually aimlessly!
However, as the same "without purpose"?
The aim is - to recognize Russia! Mean ... Yu Ossetia and Abkhazia.
Purpose - holy.
"We are responsible for those whom we - who knows, what the hell - tamed.
Understand.
And for something we (the leaders of Russia) - responsible?
Or in our political space left two axes of coordinates - the Abkhaz and South Ossetian, and everything else is measured only in relation to them?
Sometimes, by God, and it seems ...
So "who is our friends and enemies"?
Well enemies - is understandable. We ourselves ...
And friends? Abkhazia and Zimbabwe and Myanmar?
And all around - cold and brazen-multipolar strange world ...
http://www.ej.ru/?a=note&id=9446Posted 13-09-2009 at 14:14 by Кирилл Сызранский
