Problems of Russian Art

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

The problems of contemporary art in Russia and all the other countries of the former Soviet Union.

I start this topic, where you can speak about all the problems of our contemporary art. Probably not exactly to structure the topic, but I'll try to do it in advance:

1) The problems that came to us from the time of the Soviet Union. There remains a little problem. Main - formal administration artists from the Union of Artists. Of course, such a diktat in our time have collapsed. Nevertheless, only we have the official title and position, which often coincide. Sometimes chairman CX receives and awards are not for their artistic merit, but solely by his office. Many buyers pay attention to the title when buying paintings. Should there be always true that an artist should a priori be cheaper than a member of the CX. A "honored" to be less "popular"?

Write your opinion, are examples.

2) The problems of today. First of all, this is a state of flux art market, which all-nothing like 20 years. In comparison with the hundreds of years of market development in the West, we are still ahead. We do not have galleries and auctions that are hundreds of years care about their reputation. Although this is not a panacea. The sharp rise in prices in the years 2000-2008. on Russian art and the art of the former Soviet Union could lead to a bubble effect. It seems to me that many commercial galleries working not from economic considerations, but merely serve as an expensive toy for the relatives of a tycoon. The dominance of American culture puts a premium on space is not the artistic methods of fighting for a place in Solna, and methods exclusively advertising and marketing. What to sell expensive cars that expensive art - what's the difference?

3) Pricing art. You've probably noticed that this area is sometimes absolutely can not be understood by common sense. Photo of American designer (called a loud word "artist") may be sold at auction for millions of dollars. A talented fabric known contemporary Russian artist - a few thousand dollars. " As an exception - the price of tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars for those dozens of painters, who at one time made their way to Western auctions. Cloying salon artist can successfully sell their work for rich people and no auctions. A real master sometimes life awaits those who saw him and appreciated. However, this was a hundred years ago, there will be.

4) "A king is - naked!"
Do you often catch myself thinking, seeing a different picture at the exhibition or auction that its artistic merits absolutely do not correspond to the price? There is a big name artist, there is a high estimeyt (price), but no sovreshenno picture itself as an object of art! Or, coming to the artist's studio, listened to the prices on average and abortive work, similar peaks in the good works of the same artist.

Weak work, kitsch, commercial orders for the needs of the buyer, tourist thin. souvenirs.

5) Organizational problems.


Exhibitions, catalogs, advertising ....

6) ........

[Физик]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

Many buyers pay attention to the title when buying paintings. Should there be always true that an artist should a priori be cheaper than a member of the CX. A "honored" to be less "popular"?

Write your opinion, give examples.

That's not ... many would be offended ... pricing more complicated thing. Who's in front of anyone here should be accountable? See your Glasau and ...

[Черномашенцев Владимир]

Сообщение от physicist

That's not ... many would be offended ... pricing more complicated thing. Who's in front of anyone here should be accountable? See your Glasau and ...

The market always vesh complicated.
Understanding the proper place on the market can bring great benefits to anyone. In contrast, attempts were fixed outdo, or, conversely, to understate their capabilities.

Investors in the art can also "get" to fashion trends. Today it is fashionable, and in ten years - old-fashioned. Today, all "raskurchivayut" this direction, but tomorrow the gate from his nose. For example, photorealism (hyper-realism) was very fashionable in the 70 years in the U.S.. Who needs it today? And if required, for any money?

[Grigory]

Сообщение от physicist

That's not ... Many resent ...

For many ...

[artcol]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

Problems of Russian art.

I start this topic, where you can speak about all the problems of Russian art. Probably not exactly to structure the topic, but I'll try to do it in advance:

1) The problems that came to us from the time of the Soviet Union. There remains a little problem. Main - formal administration artists from the Union of Artists. Of course, such a diktat in our time have collapsed. Nevertheless, only we have the official title and position, which often coincide. Sometimes chairman CX receives and awards are not for their artistic merit, but solely by his office. Many buyers pay attention to the title when buying paintings. Should there be always true that an artist should a priori be cheaper than a member of the CX. A "honored" to be less "popular"?

About the title: you have to watch when they are received. The later - the less value they have to give.
By price: even here in the Volga region there is no a priori . All the drum - member or no
And it is now even reaching the people who made the bet on the artistic career. Market, specifically his invisible hand

[ВЯЧЕСЛАВ]

Сообщение от Chernomashentsev Vladimir

Problems of Russian art

First, rather than whether you swung widely, speaking about such a comprehensive concept as "Russian Art"?
Secondly, if it were talking about the problems, the more stubbornly separated from the rest of the world, the more these issues will be.
If we all did, is a visual art form - painting, what more likely to happen away from fossil priorities and triumph of free market principles, the more civilized formed domestic market, are now in their infancy.
 With regard to pricing in the market of art, in addition to general laws (such as if you buy more the price rises), then there is the psychological (emotional) component - say for instance, the surge of interest in the creativity of a painter or a whole direction.
This process nepodvlasten laws gos.upravleniyam culture at all levels and gives the art market interest as its highlight.

[Физик]

Сообщение от Vyacheslav

, if it were talking about problems,

One of the problems, rather causes, lack of funds from the main contingent of people versed in the issue. Fortune from another contingent.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от physicist

fortune another contingent.

Get rich man who wanted to get rich.

[Физик]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

got rich man who wanted to get rich.

Are you saying that it was necessary to move the people who understands, so I understand. But the contingent, which I had in mind, as a rule could not get in the free floating "from the context in which located. It's art critics, teachers, publishers, etc. - Everything is very dependent on those jobs, where they were, and already burdened families, not much risk.

[Posav]

And it seems to me that in Russia, contemporary art oligarhizirovanno by some person who set the direction. Moreover they can even throw a slogan, a call to which some contemporary artists throughout the country are beginning to stamp plakatiki or creative images. However, this situation has repeated in Ukraine, on stage, apparently, Kazakhstan and Belarus. This is something unimaginable for a civilized society. Anyway in the West such a no. I can not imagine that even funds Sorosha could so blatantly manipulated. Though, of course, something that sight.