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Старый 04.05.2010, 18:36 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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Greetings to all in such good oobschestve!

Digital painting (digital painting) - the creation of images through the use of human computer simulations of traditional instruments of the artist.
This is from Wikipedia. In my understanding, when the work is drawn on a computer from scratch, with his own hands, without collaging and other similar techniques.

Are there any prospects in this direction, namely as a direction in art?
How it could be interesting for development and investment?


Few explain your question:
I myself a digital artist.
Examples of creative works in a similar technique (direct links):

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1. That which binds the canvas of his life
2. Prison of souls
3. Dying Love

Is there a certain popularity in certain circles. Awards, winning in competitions, exhibitions, art projects, projects with a worldwide reputation.
Yet it's more related to massmarket products: computer games, images, artwork, magazines, posters, etc., and not with the exclusive world of art in nature.
I want to move in the direction of creative realization. Not often heard from those around enough respected people that I was long overdue)

Here with the digital painting are all very ambiguous.

On the one hand is often met with computer processing in gallery works, prints on canvas, on top smeared with butter or not fully affected.
Not a few "trendy" artists, which is seen with the naked eye using a computer.

On the other, often the mere fact that the work is drawn on the computer is perceived negatively.
As printed on canvas and covered with gel texture, it makes an impression.
People ask, what and how it is drawn.
Working people like, they show an interest in it, but knowing that the work drew on the computer, much interest is lost.
Not just watching like.

Why .. outright hard to say.
Maybe really young yet direction.
Perhaps the fault of the set collaging and fotoobrabotok. People who are slightly familiar with the computer, it often seems that everything is done _tam_ very simple.
It may be trite computer associated with people like something dead and not inspired and it leaves its mark.

In general.
Puzzled by the question now.
Moving digital painting, as art, or return to the oil?
Knowledge and approaches in many respects similar, the experience is.
For me, not of principle technique application key ideas.


I would prinatelen for any advice and opinions on the topic.
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1. My links do not open.
2. Tip: Participate in all possible exhibitions Comp. Art Society. (Many of them now, and different)
But I'm on the contrary, I want to learn on your computer ...



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Старый 04.05.2010, 19:51 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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1) How it could be interesting for development and investment?[/B]
....
2) On the other, often the mere fact that the work is drawn on the computer is perceived negatively.
People ask, what and how it is drawn.
Working people like, they show an interest in it, but knowing that the work drew on the computer, much interest is lost.
Not just watching like.

Why ..
0) I guess your work can be compared with the works of good photographers. Recently, a similar theme about the photograph was discussed at the forum.

1) Personally, I believe that despite the personal component introduced by the computer designer, investments in this area are inadequate. After all, if such work can be repeated millions of times without losing quality and for little money. You can simply steal the file. With this painting will not work - often the artist himself unable to repeat the mood and emotion, which he failed on a previous version of the same picture.

2) Why are people without interest? Maybe it's the price? If you are bidding on a print that is comparable to the price of a decent pictorial works, then everything is clear. How much (and what format) sell your work?
I think the price should be the price of a similar poster. There are, of course, the American exception. But it does not understand the reason! So American-expensive photo can cost only in the country, which itself prints the money and the world must already worldwide 13 trillion dollars.



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In my view the possibility of "repeat a million times without loss of quality, it is not the main reason.

- Work still exclusive, that is - is not a reproduction, the other does not, and is not a photograph, and the man-made work of the artist.

- If the artist is not an idiot, he will kill the value of their work and publish it unspecified stake. times

- It is easily adjusted copyright agreement with the buyer to sign by the artist undertook not to publish or use the work again. Since coming to work in order for the publisher and all beautiful works.
In the end, you simply delete the file

- In art, not a few examples. The bronze sculpture can be cast multiple times, engraving printed many times, but this does not prevent them from remaining works of art and rise in price.
Maybe the market just has not matured?

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Why are people without interest? Maybe it's the price?
This interest Interest falls upon learning that the work is drawn on the computer. Whatever the price, ie even when the issue of price is not worth at all.

The issue of pricing a bit premature, but announced that there is.
His custom is very hard work, I draw on the price of 1500-2000USD
Here are some of this quality: The Legend

Вложение 778921
Such orders are. It is the digital work. But it massmarket wrote about above, and it is almost massmarketa ceiling prices

Creative work, I have not moved and did not sell.
So to judge the interest and adevatnosti price is still too early.
But first it is more expensive, somewhere in 2500 USD
Size 60h150. It's not just print, the work lies retushnym varnish and gel texture. As a result a sufficiently bright and relief painting.

Took uchavstie with such work in an international competition, won first place in the nomination) while the rest of such creative work does not move into the world of art.

Repeat of own.
Can the same work and butter to write.
As labor costs and skills is almost the same.
But it is interested in the question about digital painting.

PS: I have a reference work: \\
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Старый 04.05.2010, 20:59 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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Interest raises what is art?
Your (opening) of the individual and certainly interesting.
However, I - a collector.
I collect the works that are interesting to me that open for me another world - the world of creators. With their vision, their feelings, their struggles with the form to express their (individual) Supertask.
I agree with Vladimir Chernomashentsevym that date, I have no guarantee of uniqueness (originality) bought work. However, I also buy and table porcelain (pottery) - certainly not unique product. I buy when the product is unique (unique) technology, drawings or marriage. It is interesting to me.
As to your kind of creativity, it is no longer painting, but not yet formed and well-established art form. Some new species.
How will accept my descendants your work after time?
With the development of computer technology (I think), the computer can not only keep my words, but also images that appear in my dreams. Like most people, I'm not an artist and sculptor. This does not mean that I have no imagination, his vision of the world, their understanding of various art forms. I just do not know how to express.
While I can not, believing that I can.
Thanks to the computer.
Not me, so my offspring.

Computer killed the book.
Maybe kill painting, graphics, and in 3D - and sculpture.
Maybe.

Today, almost no one writes letters. Not fashionable.
Simply send an SMS or throw ICQ.
But for me will always be important letter of my ancestors and their photos.
Unfortunately, I did not think to order a portrait in their lives.
I hope that my descendants will be interested in my interests.

And how they will perceive your work?
I do not know.
How splint?
Or otherwise?

That is the question.
I think so.

I liked your work, but I can not imagine them hanging in her apartment.
While not imagine.
Good luck!



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Roman Guro, was already a theme http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...2%D0%B2%D0 %BE



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Старый 04.05.2010, 22:07 Язык оригинала: Русский       #7
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gans, there is no theme, but two messages
And all that performance - it fotokollazhirovanie. Digital painting - this is somewhat different direction, here from scratch with his hands all drawn.

But the thought of your saw. Thank you.

Interestingly, computerized, and daubed with oil on top, voprinimaetsya normal) A pure digital painting no?)



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Roman Guro, you talk about a new napravlenii.Na your opinion what is art different from the blundering (not in the sense of novelty technology performance), how to determine whether the work is a work of art "(what you pay for something <! - ~ 1 ~-->?



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curious,
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Computer killed the book.
Maybe kill paintings, graphics, and in 3D - and sculpture.
Perhaps.
Computer do not know how - this is just a tool.
It's like saying "Give me a good brush, and I become an artist"
Cinema revived image, 3D technology revived sculpture.
That's all.
To make a good 3D model, you must be a good sculptor.
The bad they can not do anything, the computer can help him.
To draw on the computer must be able to paint, to know the laws of perception, color, composition, anatomy, etc.
All the same way.
And even if your computer ever (so far, and hints at it not) learn to read your imagination, I'm afraid that postonennogo perception, you will still need all of this knowledge to convey his vision.
Otherwise there will be quality amateur photos.
Even now, beauty surrounds us everywhere.
The artist just throws away too much, and highlights important.

Цитата:
I liked your work, but I can not imagine them hanging in his apartment.
While not imagine.
Thank you.
This is no longer a question of technical performance)

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Roman Guro, you talk about a new napravlenii.Na your opinion what is art different from the blundering (not in the sense of novelty technology performance), how to determine whether the work is a work of art? ( what you pay for something <!--~ a ~-->?
Without attempting to bring the truth of the wording of the encyclopedia.
She's quite accurate))

Art - figurative comprehension of reality, the process or result of expression of the inner world in an artistic way, a creative combination of elements in such a way that reflects the ideas, feelings or emotions.
Science and art - two ways of understanding the world.

From my own experience.
Skill convey feelings, emotions and feelings so that they understand the audience at the same emotional level.

In this sense, digital art course art, differing only instrument technique.




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Most interestingly, processed on a computer and daubed with oil on top, voprinimaetsya normal) A pure digital painting is not?)
Usually, if they sell "daubed with oil on top," it is not advertised, and the pictures are like paintings. And digital art in general do not see any prospects.



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