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Старый 24.09.2013, 14:30 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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Before you start a topic pondered how to call it , my head is spinning a catchy title "The sale of the motherland ? " But after some thought, chose a more neutral .
And so to the point.
Spoke recently with smart people in power , and the question that needs to be done to improve the situation in our art business , has prepared a few items , one of which caused a number of issues , here it is:

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So, by what measures and policies the state can strongly contribute to the development of the national art market ?
1. Output in the commercial circulation of " doubles " of little value , minor and non-core items , as well as dying objects from the museum's storerooms . It is no secret that in the vaults collected thousands of pieces, to put it mildly , are not important. These are the things that fall in museums are not naturally but by the logic of the revolutionary historical process - seized from private circulation for decades gathering dust in the vaults of no shows and without the inclusion of a scientific revolution . Why not create one fund and implement it at a public auction ? Perhaps the government is afraid that under the guise of minor things and " doubles " corrupt administrators will sell masterpieces. But in order to minimize this risk it is advisable to establish public defense mechanisms . The task feasible . A national market , suffocating from a deficit of things , this step will give a powerful impetus to the development .
But what questions were asked in response to this suggestion:
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1. Are we not confronted with the accusation : that are selling a national treasure "?
2 . Would the implementation of your plan in the collapse of the market?
3 . Do not deprive a massive release to the market of artists of the recent past expectations of contemporary artists to break into the market? And so " overproduction " artists in the USSR is impeding contemporary artists , and then there's all that is on the market .
I have already said something about it but then came up with the idea to seek public opinion on the subject, but where does that do not like the forum?
Ask to speak .



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Старый 24.09.2013, 15:46 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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You're a little too late ...
It has long been agile people have solved this problem.
Recently I was asked to fake Pohitonova made ​​in the image and likeness of the original kept in the vaults of one of the local museums . Also Sapunoff somehow flashed the same origin, and Nesterov, and Kustodiev, and Lebedev .
So soon or there will an alternative history of Russian art. Or so mixed that features a leg break . Especially if our incorruptible art will all give their opinions , and just to state that : " I see,"



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Старый 24.09.2013, 16:07 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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I was asked to fake Pohitonova made ​​in the image and likeness of the original kept in the vaults of one of the provincial museums
What does the fake? I outlined the essence of bad ideas?
It is about selling paintings that are in the vaults of the museum and for some reason never get to the main exhibition . Typically, storage of such paintings - a burden for museums .



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Старый 24.09.2013, 17:10 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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and imagine what will be crap if the museum Uryupinsk put on sale now Navozova, the faction of the Communist Party will oppose the sale of the national heritage, Grabar Center has stated that it is not manure, and Pchelin and the State Tretyakov Gallery, which later fake.

Who needs this mess?
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Старый 24.09.2013, 17:19 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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This is a technical issue and not as complicated as it seems.
The main thing is it necessary?
Is there a problem of shortage in the market, there is a problem vaults?



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Старый 24.09.2013, 17:36 Язык оригинала: Русский       #6
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So, by what measures and policies the state can strongly contribute to the development of the national art market ?
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PUTIN : It is necessary to organize branches of the museums in the regional centers of the Russian Federation not to lie in the vaults of a work of art , not in the basement , and people to see .

V.MEDINSKY : Do you know how jealous of museum directors to transfer its funds.

PUTIN : Transfer will not have to , branches should be organized .

V.MEDINSKY : Yes, but I will say that , in anticipation of this idea, we have recreated the Soviet system , which was called the state enterprise " Rosizopropaganda ." The name may be a little edit . It was a single State Exhibition Centre, which carried out the exhibition policy and the country and abroad. Until now , twenty years , this was done only the museums. If the museum strong - Hermitage, something he sought , if the museum is weak, he had no chance on the show.

" Rosizopropaganda " will be supplemented with a powerful exposure and drive them and the regions of Russia , down to small cities and abroad.

PUTIN : Hermitage doing it today, and in the regions of Russia is doing in the Far East. But other museums have to do .
Meeting with the Minister of Culture Vladimir Medina .



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Старый 24.09.2013, 22:37 Язык оригинала: Русский       #7
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Quote :
So, by what measures and policies the state can strongly contribute to the development of the national market of art?
1. Output in the commercial circulation of " doubles " of little value , minor and non-core items , as well as dying objects from the museum's storerooms .

Quote :
1. Are we not confronted with the accusation : that are selling a national treasure "?
 
Konstantin, you can post links to the original source of these two quotations. Thank you.



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Старый 24.09.2013, 22:51 Язык оригинала: Русский       #8
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Konstantin, We are talking about the sale of paintings that are in the vaults of the museum and for some reason never get to the main exhibition . Typically, storage of such paintings - a burden for museums .
There is no extra stuff in museums !
Just because they are sometimes made prefabricated exhibition on what that of the names and collect paintings from other museums for the exhibition.
Each museum is proud of his work!



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Старый 24.09.2013, 23:15 Язык оригинала: Русский       #9
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For me, so let it be the deficit, it's like Raikin pomnite.Eto will help strengthen the market and contemporary art and antique drop . Meanwhile , more will be a great temptation for museums to start working on applications -bags and more will be present , has no artistic value , and then those with proper attribution zaimeet .



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Старый 24.09.2013, 23:44 Язык оригинала: Русский       #10
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, you can place links to the original sources of these two quotations. thank you
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There is no extra stuff in museums !
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No sources , the first quote is our proposal , the second question to our proposal .
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However , more will be a great temptation for museums to start working on applications moneybags
The decision to create this prestigious commission. What the whole country will not find people you can trust ?



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