Plate with heraldry (coat of arms) Ivanova

[Павел46]

It is proposed to estimate this dish
This kind of dish almost never occur, illustrated heraldry (coat of arms) of the genus Ivanov (Victor Andreev, State Councilor, a railway engineer)

This is the only instance (not unique) is probably the Special Order

In my resolution, picture front of the plate (the emblem) is now in the General armorial of noble families of the Russian Empire, as they except my image nebilo no!

Here is a description Emblem:
Description of the coat of arms (blazon)

In the azure shield seven golden ears with golden leaves and stems. In a silver shield the head crosswise black anchor and an ax, the edge facing up. The shield is crowned noble crowned helmet. Crest three ostrich feathers: average - azure, right - Golden, left - silver. Gallop: azure, put silver. Motto: "Do not of fear but out of conscience" in gold letters on the azure ribbon.

http://gerbovnik.ru/arms/2509.html


I ask you to speak out about the cost of a plate

A plate with no chips, cracks, restorations, interventions!
I also want to know where to sell this lot, here in the forum or better to bring on what nirbud Moscow (promoted) the auction, there may be willing to show up?

[Solovlad]

Good day.

Pavel46, I can assume that the price of your item may vary in the range of $ 800-1500 (plus large diameter, safety, minus not porcelain).
From SW.

[Wladzislaw]

In my view, this is a modern dish, which has fastened on the turnover and the eagle.

[Павел46]

porcelain plate

and about the authenticity I have no doubt , and this theme was not created to recognize the authenticity of the subject, and to assess its



Plate original, genuine 100 %

at a price of course do not agree
Large size + for + rare + recension of the 19th century

starting from $ 3000 ( it is my view price)

[тандем]

Сообщение от Pavel46 ; 2649571 "

bowl original, authenticity 100 %

Plate original. Its value today of $ 10 And in the days of state councilor , a railway engineer - kopeyki.Dazhe assuming that a Mr. Ivanov bought a china shop decided to dish out her ambition to display your family coat of arms , then who besides his descendants , it is interesting for $ 3,000 ?

[Павел46]

for $ 10 you buy Chinese (cheap stuff on the market)



and Imperial Porcelain of the 19th century, not in-line, and a single specimen

 
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[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Pavel46

and the Imperial Porcelain of the 19th century, not in-line, and a single specimen

This is not " Imperial Porcelain of the 19th century ", and ordinary Kuznetsovskaya plate.

[Павел46]

Kuznetsovskaya porcelain, is not to Imperial Russia?

Stamp of the late 19th century


do what you write (say)?
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and what period you are considered Imperial Russia?


16-17-18 chtoli century?
and the 19th century is probably the USSR?

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Сообщение от Pavel46

Kuznetsovskaya porcelain, is not to Imperial Russia?

Kuznetsovskaya porcelain means and the Russian Empire, including.

But then you write about a " Imperial Porcelain " and it can be assumed that what you call a product of the Imperial Porcelain Factory.

[Павел46]

No do you mean??


I mean that is not an ordinary dish and was completed in the time of Imperial Russia in the 19th century, more precisely