[Eriksson]

As far as may be required (at least among members of the forum)
firm-intermediary in the procedure of sending antiques from Europe to the former Union?
Intermediary firms, for example, is taken for the acquisition at auction of paintings and objects on demand from abroad and then sends them to a completely legitimate manner, but with your invoice to the customer ...
I have a firm, you can easily convert this way. There is also a permanent contract c DHL.

The only question is whether my clients? This is a question of marketing.

Thinks vysokouvazhemy forum?

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[QUOTE="Eriksson; 1432741] intermediary firms, for example, is taken for the acquisition at auction of paintings and objects on demand from abroad and then sends them to a completely legitimate manner, but with its invoice to the customer ...[/QUOTE]

And the firm itself will already buy lots on request at auction?

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[QUOTE="Eriksson; 1432741]There is also a permanent contract c DHL.[/QUOTE]

Discounts from DHL the firm is?

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Сообщение от "Eriksson

There is also a permanent contract c DHL.

Discounts from DHL at the firm have?

[SergeiSK]

Сообщение от Eriksson; 1432741"

The only question is whether my clients?

Anyone who buys antiques and contemporary art at Western auctions certainly knows the different ways of delivery and ways to minimize it. Your company becomes an additional link, and, accordingly, further increasing costs of the buyer.
But if the firm can take a deduction invoice auction several times, then customers would be. This is a significant savings during the passage of a parcel through customs. There is a difference to pay VAT from 100 thousand euros in the invoice or the auction with 10,000 in the invoice of the company? There. And significant. So that a decrease in the invoice - a necessary and beneficial to both parties.
Of course few people will trust us to acquire for themselves works of art at auction. Usually it makes the buyer or his authorized representative. And for that to become one, he should just trust in the competence and integrity. But this matter can be acquired with time and after the recommendations of the customers on this service may appear.
Also consider alternative methods of delivery, without DHL, FedEx, UPS.
And why we need a firm, when it's all you can do as an individual?

[Pecheneg]

Сообщение от SergeiSK; 1433141"

But if the firm can take a deduction invoice auction several times, then customers would be. This is a significant savings during the passage of a parcel through customs.

That's all nice, but at customs can invite their experts ... And where is the guarantee that they will appreciate this below invoice, but not exceeding ...
I like that would be an icon, bought in the West, not overrated at customs above the invoice had to put all prepisku with the auction ... starting with the initial rates, and ending with the final price.

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Сообщение от Pecheneg; 1433361"

And where is the guarantee that they will appreciate this below invoice, but not above ...

Yes no Western firm would not lower a price in the invoice, to participate in essence a tax crime.
Visitor tips undercharge in the invoice for the Western firm sounds crazy, it is advised to fraudulently pay the state tax is less than that is laid, such sound advice about how to rob the public enterprise boards.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Yes, no Western firm would not lower a price in the invoice, to participate in essence a tax crime.
Visitor tips undercharge in the invoice for the Western firm sounds crazy, it is advised to fraudulently pay the state tax is less than that is laid, such sound advice about how to rob the public enterprise boards.

Would demand and profit, and legalize - but problems.

[Eriksson]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran, 1432961

, and the firm itself will already buy lots on request at auction?

Discounts from DHL firm has?

The firm buys back the contract with the customer.

I do not think that the flow of orders may be directed so great that DHL or somebody else will give discounts on the mass. But as a company, the company pays for the logistics considerably less than a private person.

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Сообщение от SergeiSK

Anyone who buys antiques and contemporary art at Western auctions certainly knows the different ways of delivery and ways to minimize it. Your company becomes an additional link, and, accordingly, further increasing costs of the buyer.
But if the firm can take a deduction invoice auction several times, then customers would be. This is a significant savings during the passage of a parcel through customs. There is a difference to pay VAT from 100 thousand euros in the invoice or the auction with 10,000 in the invoice of the company? There. And significant. So that a decrease in the invoice - a necessary and beneficial to both parties.

Business idea is precisely that. to reduce the costs for the customer clearance. Reducing ivoysa 10 times, of course, is unthinkable, but within reasonable limits, in conformity of the prices of the western market - easily. You all know very well, and so live that in Europe the price of antiques is significantly lower than in the CIS. If the firm buys the item at the auction and then sells it - nobody can accuse her of what she is selling cheaper than buying. No tax crime that someone is trading at a loss - no. The firm pays the auction for the purchase, interest, plus VAT, and this all ends. If the invoice marked lower European market price for the item - that is the criminal?
It certainly can make a private person, but as individuals do not have much confidence. The firm - a legal person, and if it is registered with the appropriate profile, her claims can not be.

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Сообщение от Pecheneg

It's all nice, but at customs can invite their experts ... And where is the guarantee that they will appreciate this below invoice, but not exceeding ...
I like that would be an icon, bought in the West, not overrated at customs above the invoice had to put all prepisku with the auction ... starting with the initial rates, and ending with the final price.

Someone from the members of the forum have already mentioned in the "import-export" that if the invoice from the German antiquarian and print it on a photo of the subject and the invoice, the problems with the Russian (or Ukrainian?) Customs did not have any. Therein lies the advantage of a legal entity before the physical.

Please refute, if you have other ideas!

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Сообщение от Eriksson

Please, refute, if you have other ideas!

Refute your argument makes no sense - because you look at the problem from the European side of the border. Problems at customs will be guaranteed unless obzavedetes partners across the border, which have a "window." Window on the route - it is not kriminal.Eto guarantee that the displacement is adequately fit without nagging, threats and vymogatelstva.V Otherwise, any "invoices from a German antique dealer and print it on a photo of the subject and the invoice does not save on the cost of nerves, time and money.

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Сообщение от tandem

refute your argument makes no sense - because you look at the problem from the European side of the border. Problems at customs will be guaranteed unless obzavedetes partners across the border, which have a "window." Window on the route - it is not kriminal.Eto guarantee that the displacement is adequately fit without nagging, threats and vymogatelstva.V Otherwise, any "invoices from a German antique dealer and print it on a photo of the subject and the invoice does not save on the cost of nerves, time and money.

Eriksson, all of this (see above) is true, perhaps, for the Ukrainian side.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky; 1434011"

Eriksson, all of this (see above) is true, perhaps, for the Ukrainian side.

Oh, there! Ukrainian customs officers will certainly be delighted by the fact that, thanks to a certain, they became zakonadatelyami fashion "winding intestines" when you move from behind a cordon of all, that little or less, in their opinion falls under the concept "work of art!" But, alas, in grim Actually not all smooth going on and on Russia's border How very true wrote SergeiSK - "Anyone who buys antiques and contemporary art at Western auctions certainly knows the different ways of delivery and ways to minimize it." Note - to minimize! And do not create yourself an extra gembel as a problem of "who stick those damn bills" without the risk of being accused of "attempting to bribe dolzhostnomu face."