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Old 25-03-2013, 15:06 Original language: Russian        #1
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Painting purchased in the UK. But the most interesting thing that when x-rays under a layer of paint another picture , a gentleman in a hat with a beard , dressed in a fur coat either whether to coat. A girl gets drawn in his heart. The picture is like a map , a man beneath a layer of paint , and the girl at the top.
  

Question: who is the author ? Who do like the gentleman in the hat ?
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Old 25-03-2013, 15:24 Original language: Russian        #2
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Looks like a Van Gogh like broken nose.


It is necessary that more and ear had been cut off!



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acquire a picture Kharlamov .

angocman, just about. Kharlamov was bought as a picture . Unfortunately , this picture never nestanet no picture Kharlamov or Renoir or Van Gogh.
It will always remain an unknown artist , and painting, as you mistakenly bought harlamovskoy .

Do not look at the picture 's colorful layer (the old man in the hat .) Old canvas depicting an old man was used to write this paper. This is a proven trick poddelschikov , in this situation, you can not use the word fake, because the picture was not signing. That is not imitation Kharlamov.
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How much does this picture may be worth ?
The art market is probably much less than you paid. Why? You bought it as a job Kharlamov. And they are here and does not smell. Ask for a refund and write back to where you took it.

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Do I understand the course of your thoughts? Kharlamov , Makovsky and perhaps Repin portrait of a girl on a self-portrait of Auguste Renoir , and Alfred Sisley can be ! Q: Why did he do it? Is it possible in theory ? I think if your fears are confirmed it - a sensation! > > >




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The art market is probably much less than you paid. Why? You bought it as a job Kharlamov. And they are here and does not smell. Ask for a refund and write back to where you get it .
Oh no , it is unlikely there are many paid. Price neighboring images of about 100 pounds , and that probably about the same cost. And sold as a work by an unknown artist , like a Harlamovskuyu perhaps his successor , something like that .



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acquire a picture Kharlamov. Unfortunately , this picture never nestanet no picture Kharlamov or Renoir or Van Gogh.
It will always remain an unknown artist , and painting, as you mistakenly bought harlamovskoy .

Do not look at the picture 's colorful layer (the old man in the hat .) Old canvas depicting an old man was used to write this paper. This is a proven trick poddelschikov , in this situation, you can not use the word fake, because the picture was not signing. That is not imitation Kharlamov.

The art market is probably much less than you paid. Why? You bought it as a job Kharlamov.
I did not buy it as Kharlamov , I bought it as an unknown author , the seller only assume that it is possible Kharlamov.
Paid for it a little bit, for the money now not that fake it and draw one not taken, and even more so in the old canvas.



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Old 25-03-2013, 19:00 Original language: Russian        #7
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I did not buy it as Kharlamov
Honestly, not very much to me to believe that you bought it from some other considerations. The site has many other galleries, more decorative paintings, also unnamed. What motivation you had to buy a portrait of an unknown girl in the performance of at least an unknown author? As a rule, the portraits - a genre of art that has sentimental value. Especially in performance n /x.
Based on the fact that you have presented here X-ray picture suggests that you wear it on the technological expertise. So looking for a big name, bought for 3 pennies. Otherwise of any such other reasons you do it? Or did you know that there is a girl vangogorenuarsisley?
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for the money now not that fake it and draw one not taken, and even more so in the old canvas.
Here, here. But someone did come from and painted. And someone put up for sale, and someone bought it and had x-rays done. And the old canvas to save money (or to create the effect of antiquity).
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seller only assume that it is possible Kharlamov.
But how different? Would sign Kharlamov - no one would have bought it.




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To be honest, not very much to me to believe that you bought it from some other considerations. The site has many other galleries, more decorative paintings, also unnamed. What motivation you had to buy a portrait of an unknown girl in the performance of at least an unknown author? As a rule, the portraits - a genre of art that has sentimental value. Especially in performance n /x.
Based on the fact that you have presented here X-ray picture suggests that you wear it on the technological expertise. So looking for a big name, bought for 3 pennies. Otherwise of any such other reasons you do it? Or did you know that there is a girl vangogorenuarsisley?

Here, here. But someone did come from and painted. And someone put up for sale, and someone bought it and had x-rays done. And the old canvas to save money (or to create the effect of antiquity).


 
Bought for profit and receive profits >
X-rays did because I felt that in the upper right corner there is a sign and a crack was visible color other X-ray has confirmed my suspicions about the signature but found the second portrait.
Technological expertise, I do not do it.
You have been accused as though I will try vtyuhat painting for a few million. I just wonder who the author.

I thought that there is twisted heap of experts, and that happened here are the same experts like myself.



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I think that there is a lot of spinning experts, but it turned out that there are the same experts like myself .
All experts "spinning" or expert organizations or private, so to speak, and the way for his " twist - turn my " denyuzhku want to get an any . >
And you asked :
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Artist , I think it is not possible to determine , but that it is not any reason you can Kharlamov told.



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Artist , I think it is not possible to determine , but that it is not any reason you can Kharlamov told .
The fact that this is not Kharlamov I myself understand why I Kharlamov with its price of $ 3 million , 100 million for Renoir me more likable in terms of price >

Well defined as authorship and no signature ?
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